i'll admit.. i'm a last minute global quester.. but i prolonged TOO long this time around
i have failed you..
Gargantuan Mosquitos IV (Global)
#61
Posted 24 February 2015 - 20:30
#62
Posted 24 February 2015 - 20:46
Even if I did use all my stam I wouldn't have even made it to the top 100. And we were millions short so an extra 10k kills would have meant absolutely nothing.
I have 1000 more max stamina than you and I made the top 100, does that happen all the time, no but it does require planning. Unless you have a huge stam bank no one is going to hand you the top 100. It is a community event, putting forth the minimum effort or no effort and then commenting that it should be graded so more people "win" is the opposite of what the intent of a "community" event is. It took me 33K stamina to get almost 45K kills, I did not use any global pots, I did use composed pots. Even if I had fallen short I still would have come out ahead given the amount of common and rare fragments I picked up. As hockey great Wayne Gretzky once said, "you miss 100% of the shots you don't take". If you're going to participate in a community event go all in for that top 100, you might be surprised with the results.
Edited by Rocknoor, 24 February 2015 - 20:50.
#63
Posted 24 February 2015 - 20:50
I participated . . . so what?
I don't see anything wrong with lowering the kill count if it would help those that are discouraged to participate. Arguing and trolling us on the forums wont solve the issue, it will make it worse and will strengthen my resolve to have this fixed. With declining numbers of active players in the game it makes sense to drop the kill count to keep the ratio correct. This game is all based on numbers. You mess up the ratios then you screw up the fun and people get frustrated and do not want to participate. I don't see why you guys do not understand the concept. This is getting silly.
Lowering the required count will, I suspect, just result in those who do the massive hitting, doing less - and, I think, rightly so - why SHOULD they carry the can for everyone ?
This is a game-wide event - anyone and everyone can participate (as long as they can see the critters, of course) so the problem isn't the actual numbers required for the rewards, it's the amount of participation players put in. Some go all out on it (and I'm grateful for their efforts), some do all they can (and still fall short of the "bonus" rewards) and some do the absolute minimum.
The player mentality behind the events needs to change, not the actual numbers...
As others have said, there's a LOT of unused stamina up amongst the top players. I did quite a bit more than the minimum but, I admit, this time I was going more for the fragments than the actual reward so I could be (almost) accused of the antipathy myself ...
Homer : Marge, don't discourage the boy. Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals .. except the weasel.
Eddie Izzard : The National Rifle Association say that guns don't kill people, people do. But I think the gun helps, you know ? I think it helps. I think just standing there going "BANG" - that's not going to kill too many people, is it ?
I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but it seems that everything I eat lately turns to poo ...
#64
Posted 24 February 2015 - 21:08
Shame on you Paradox, for SHAME! lol
#65
Posted 24 February 2015 - 21:16
Shame on you Paradox, for SHAME! lol
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Homer : Marge, don't discourage the boy. Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals .. except the weasel.
Eddie Izzard : The National Rifle Association say that guns don't kill people, people do. But I think the gun helps, you know ? I think it helps. I think just standing there going "BANG" - that's not going to kill too many people, is it ?
I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but it seems that everything I eat lately turns to poo ...
#66
Posted 24 February 2015 - 21:23
Thanks out to HCS for the event and congrats out to the entire FS Community for getting the second best level of chests.
That said, I "failed" miserably. I would like to have done a lot more, but RL issues and game priorities have taken over.
Thank you to everyone who put in their utmost to get us the "silver medal".
Prosperous smacking everybody and extra congrats to the top 100 who got the ruby chests. You 100% deserve it and I'm jealous, hehe.
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#67
Posted 24 February 2015 - 21:23
Spending extra stamina and effort with the hope of reaching Top 100 then failing in the end and not receiving any compensatory reward is a negative reinforcement. Hence you see a lot of people who opt to do only the minimum 5k kills even though they have more stam to spend. What we need is positive reinforcement - give these players incentive to spend more of their stamina on kills. Remove the Top 100 Epic Chest rewards and replace it with a fair tiered reward system based on the number of kills.
Edited by Maj, 24 February 2015 - 21:24.
#68
Posted 24 February 2015 - 21:28
Spending extra stamina and effort with the hope of reaching Top 100 then failing in the end and not receiving any compensatory reward is a negative reinforcement. Hence you see a lot of people who opt to do only the minimum 5k kills even though they have more stam to spend. What we need is positive reinforcement - give these players incentive to spend more of their stamina on kills. Remove the Top 100 Epic Chest rewards and replace it with a fair tiered reward system based on the number of kills.
I've suggested similar in the past, but have been shot down (and, to an extant, I see why) by those with massive stam banks.
Their argument is "why should I be penalised for having upgraded my character?" - and they have a point.
I'd love to see a different reward structure, one that rewarded effort by all players, but not one that penalised players who've upgraded their character.
The problem there tho is HOW ?
Edited by Pardoux, 24 February 2015 - 21:41.
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Homer : Marge, don't discourage the boy. Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals .. except the weasel.
Eddie Izzard : The National Rifle Association say that guns don't kill people, people do. But I think the gun helps, you know ? I think it helps. I think just standing there going "BANG" - that's not going to kill too many people, is it ?
I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but it seems that everything I eat lately turns to poo ...
#69
Posted 24 February 2015 - 21:38
Lowering the required count will, I suspect, just result in those who do the massive hitting, doing less - and, I think, rightly so - why SHOULD they carry the can for everyone ?
This is a game-wide event - anyone and everyone can participate (as long as they can see the critters, of course) so the problem isn't the actual numbers required for the rewards, it's the amount of participation players put in. Some go all out on it (and I'm grateful for their efforts), some do all they can (and still fall short of the "bonus" rewards) and some do the absolute minimum.
The player mentality behind the events needs to change, not the actual numbers...
As others have said, there's a LOT of unused stamina up amongst the top players. I did quite a bit more than the minimum but, I admit, this time I was going more for the fragments than the actual reward so I could be (almost) accused of the antipathy myself ...
I agree, but its not *just* the top players mentality, or as another said, players in the top 10 guilds.
It is across the board.
Edited by chslayer, 24 February 2015 - 21:45.
#70
Posted 24 February 2015 - 21:42
I agree, but its not *just* the top players, or as another said, players in the top 10 guilds.
I didn't say it was
- I was just reinforcing a point that was made earlier - I'm sure there's a plethora of unused stamina across all levels ...
Homer : Marge, don't discourage the boy. Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals .. except the weasel.
Eddie Izzard : The National Rifle Association say that guns don't kill people, people do. But I think the gun helps, you know ? I think it helps. I think just standing there going "BANG" - that's not going to kill too many people, is it ?
I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but it seems that everything I eat lately turns to poo ...
#71
Posted 24 February 2015 - 22:53
Edited by Maj, 24 February 2015 - 23:00.
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#72
Posted 24 February 2015 - 23:00
I agree, but its not *just* the top players mentality, or as another said, players in the top 10 guilds.
It is across the board.
also didnt say was just the top ones it was just easier to grab there stam stats
#73
Posted 24 February 2015 - 23:36
Just the addition of something a little different will help. This constant re-hash of GE's was always going to wear thin. The Yeoman event prior to this one was the first that combined global chest with frag drops. We made Ruby. Around 1600 players participated in that event which meant a kill rate, for each player, at just under 11k. Seeing figures like that you can understand why HCS thinks Global Ruby tier is achievable. This event did the same, combined Global Chests with frag drops, but we didn't make Ruby. The novelty had already gone. Add something new please. We have hammered these existing Global mobs into oblivion we need a new challenge to get the juices flowing again.
Cheers.
wil72
Edited by wil72, 24 February 2015 - 23:37.
#74
Posted 24 February 2015 - 23:38
OK, I admit it, it was my fault.... I put an unexpected GvG (solo defend, 100% perfect, ofc) and some real life stuff (laundry, dinner, dishes, shower, sleep) first. I know, it was selfish of me to only get 5002 kills, but I did hit them 1X1 with no GB cuz I needed frags. I had trouble being enthused this go round... lots of lag, watching circles spin for 3-10 seconds, my little guy just standing there, and I'm screaming words that would bring BG's hammer down upon me because the map overheats my laptop and it shuts down.... I never even got to the bottom of my stam..... last time the laptop shut down, I just logged in, and headed back to my relic.... en route, laptop shut down again
.... Why does FS do this to me?
Just one old lady's opinion

~Love, Penny
Have you hugged your Quango lately?
#75
Posted 25 February 2015 - 00:25
Congrats on everyone that participated in the GE, Crystal is still a praiseworthy feat.
I would just like to cite myself as an example of how difficult it is for a non-EoC or low stam bank player to make the top 100. I was at full stamina during the event, and had to use an Emblazoned Potion (AM500/Cons500) + 300 FSPs to barely make the top 100 cutoff.
I have heard it all - from players saying that one should contribute as much as they can regardless of whether they make top 100 or not, and one should upgrade one's character if one wants to reach the top 100 - but let's face it; non-EoC players/non stam bankers have a considerably lower incentive to give it their all. With this being said, I fully advocate consolation prizes as stated in this thread (i.e, an extra potion for those that get 20k+ kills, or potion rewards based on one's level/how much stamina one starts out with during the GE/stam gain they can muster per hour) in order to make Ruby a more tangible goal, ease the burden of the top 100 contributors, and appeal to the lower level players/low stam bankers.
TL;DR: The establishment of consolation prizes for those that go way above and beyond the minimum number of kills needed to qualify but don't quite make the top 100 cutoff.
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#76
Posted 25 February 2015 - 04:16
Globals are a time to set differences aside...and pull together as a community...for the chests.... ![]()
#77
Posted 25 February 2015 - 11:05
There can be many reasons why somebody with a large stam bank would not do more than the minimum. And I think it is unfair to focus on them. (or me for that matter). If LIB500 is "missing" that may already be a reason. There may also be players who actually do not need those chests. Can't expect them to then "waste" their stamina.
And to be honest I myself find a GE too boring, just a simple clickfest, and after 5000 kills I had more than enough of it. A LIB500/AM500/AL500 combo is better motivation than the ones for this event.
And I do understand they do not want such überpots al the time, but I guess that results in not reaching ruby.
Also as said by others, the risk of not reaching the top100 is another reason to hold back. During the xmas event I barely made it. (95th or so) So if my 50K stam is no ensurance to make it, I may be reluctant to take the risk.
Those are my two cents. ![]()
#78
Posted 25 February 2015 - 12:01
There was an average of 75-100 less players online per day during this event than the previous one.
That's no where near an accurate way to judge this. We have the numbers and this event was every bit as healthy as the one last month. People just put a little less into it for whatever reasons they may have.
The numbers for the event are fine. We just need a few more incentives. This is being discussed in this thread :
Clicky!
#79
Posted 25 February 2015 - 15:18
That's no where near an accurate way to judge this. We have the numbers and this event was every bit as healthy as the one last month. People just put a little less into it for whatever reasons they may have.
The numbers for the event are fine. We just need a few more incentives. This is being discussed in this thread :
Clicky!
The boss said it, I believe it, that settles it ![]()
Just one old lady's opinion

~Love, Penny
Have you hugged your Quango lately?
#80
Posted 25 February 2015 - 18:00
.... Why does FS do this to me?
crappy laptop ![]()
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