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#1 RebornJedi

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Posted 14 March 2015 - 04:04

I think a player shouldn't be able to buy PvP protection while on the Ladder. They opt'd in and should stay for the whole fight, not run away halfway..

 

What are your thoughts on this issue?


 


#2 sweetlou

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Posted 14 March 2015 - 04:13

The Ladder is supposedly changing, so who cares? When it's changing is another question, but I doubt anything would be done before the change.


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#3 RebornJedi

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Posted 14 March 2015 - 04:17

guess you're right :(


 


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Posted 14 March 2015 - 04:19

BUT i can hope that with whatever new PvP tournament is introduced that PvP Protection can't be used to run away..


 


#5 sweetlou

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Posted 14 March 2015 - 05:19

Let's wait and not hold our breath for the new Ladder/Tournament system and then start talking about tweaks to fix the abuses that are found.


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#6 RebornJedi

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Posted 14 March 2015 - 14:19

Well since it seems that one can buy PvP Protection from the Ladder then place a bounty on some hits that were done during that reset .. If this bug can't be fully squashed its best to just plug up the process in which it can occur


 


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Posted 14 March 2015 - 14:55

Yea...that's crazy that a bounty can get placed....that's not supposed to happen on Ladder????


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#8 yghorbeviahn

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Posted 14 March 2015 - 19:34

I think a player should be able to buy PvP Protection regardless of the PvP Ladder opt-in...But that should not put him outside the Ladder, and Ladder hits should be avaliable on that player regardless of the PvP Protection. The PvP Protection would count only for hits outside the Ladder.



#9 RebornJedi

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Posted 14 March 2015 - 20:47

A good idea to bring up... But what type of XP loss does a player fear outside the ladder that surely doesn't come at a greater degree then from fighting on the ladder?

 


#10 RebornJedi

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Posted 14 March 2015 - 20:53

If rules like that start then wouldn't bounty hunters want the same treatment?

 


#11 yghorbeviahn

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Posted 14 March 2015 - 23:39

I`ve never bought PvP Protection and I believe I never will, so lets say that is just an example.

A guild is at war and players are hitting everyone in your guild, you don`t want to take part on that war, but you are on the Ladder...You buy PvP Protection and still on the Ladder.

I see no relation between Ladder and open PvP, is like saying you can`t play the Arena if you buy PvP Protection, or do GvG...I see no reason to relate both things.

And what kind of special treatment?
What Bounty Hunting has anything to do with PvP Ladder?



#12 RebornJedi

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Posted 15 March 2015 - 00:19

If you attack, you lose PvP protection.. I think if you even accept a bounty you lose it.. A bounty hunter could describe the current rules better because I don't bounty hunt nor buy PvP protection

 


#13 sweetlou

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Posted 15 March 2015 - 01:07

This is a bug I complained about when bountying attacks where taken from the Ladder. Before that we could dish out punishment. Now players can literally tick to join the Ladder, the Ladder resets, then a player can hit as much as they want, then PvP protect for 200k bailing out of the Ladder without any repercussion.  It allows BOUNTY FREE attacks!! It's absolutely wrong!

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#14 RebornJedi

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Posted 15 March 2015 - 01:32

hopefully this brings new light to an old problem.. i sent in my ticket on the issue and hope to have to resolved after the weekend..

 

an easy fix is to disallow PvP Protection from being used on the PvP Ladder.. stops the ladder deserters and those who exploit the bug where ladder hits can have a bounty placed on them..


 


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Posted 15 March 2015 - 01:55

an easy fix is to disallow PvP Protection from being used on the PvP Ladder.. stops the ladder deserters and those who exploit the bug where ladder hits can have a bounty placed on them..

Ladder hits can NOT be bountied. If you where on a Ladder and someone bails out, you would have to hit them while they were out of the Ladder for them to be able to bounty you.


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#16 RebornJedi

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Posted 15 March 2015 - 02:30

Or there is a bug... Because the player who placed a bounty on me is out of my attack range off the ladder.. And I didn't take a bounty on said player..

There has to be some sort of hiccup in the system that allows this to happen... I was bountyed after the ladder reset maybe that has something to do with it? Or they could bounty right after they bought their way off the ladder.. I don't know and since the player has blocked my communication I can't find out.. All I know is I couldn't bounty the attacks they hit me with while on the ladder

 


#17 moonfrost

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 07:10

Since you have to physically click the box to join the ladder, you should be forced to remain on that ladder until you opt out of ladder by physically clicking that box once again and waiting for it to reset....if you get pvp protection while on the ladder then the only thing that should do until a reset is prevent you from placing and getting points from that ladder but should not prevent attacks



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Posted 16 March 2015 - 08:16

If you attack, you lose PvP protection.. I think if you even accept a bounty you lose it.. A bounty hunter could describe the current rules better because I don't bounty hunt nor buy PvP protection

If a Bounty Hunter think he deserves PvP Protection even after doing a Bounty, he really need to rethink his game strategy.

For me the Ladder have nothing to do with open game PvP, and PvP Protection should count only for open PvP, so even with PVP Protection you should be able to play the Ladder normally, hit and be hitted, just like GvG alow you to do it. And more important, buying PvP Protection while on Ladder should not remove you from the Ladder.

Also, I had Bounty to place over people who hitted me on the Ladder, that shouldn't be possible anymore, but still happening...Don't know what make that happens, looks like a glitch or something...But that never disturbed me, I've never posted a Ladder hit, and no one ever posted me either...(I believe that happened few times on the start, not really sure, but whatever)



#19 RebornJedi

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Posted 24 March 2015 - 15:54

Any cow word on this issue and the bugs explained within it?

 



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