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#181 Nagoyaka

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Posted 14 April 2015 - 10:38

Is that really a problem? Your guild might be the only ones to think this. If you go to UFSG, you can see there is not big difference from highest level titan compared to the highest level champion when it comes to amount of XP given. Nothing gamebreaking at all.



#182 rowbeth

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Posted 14 April 2015 - 10:59

They're independent. They each take their Stamina for their respective buff. But who exactly uses Doubler during Questing or Titan Hunting? Not many I'd wager.

 

Actually, BG, that is a major use for this buff, and it is why I thought this was going to be a very useful buff.

 

I've often had hunts with big potion pots running, and gone through a realm with a quest involving "kill n creatures", but because of the high doubler I could only kill a smaller number before sublevelling, so had to move on and come back to finish the quest later.

 

If I were able to add questhunter, and it combined with doubler in the same way as does global booster, then I would be able to complete many more of those quests at level.

 

Also, you didn't comment on the missing(?) details. The blurb for questhunter mentions only extra kills, and it makes *no* reference to any extra consumption of stamina. Is that an oversight, or will it actually consume no additional stamina?



#183 BigGrim

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Posted 14 April 2015 - 11:00

1. While looking at the skill tree, Quest Hunter description states nothing regarding extra stamina usage (whereas Titan Doublers description does)...  so the question still remains.


Quest Hunter does not use extra Stam, no.
 

2. ok, both amounts of stamina are absorbed. so, the xp gain is also awarded for both of them?


Both of them? TDouble does not give you extra XP, just Titan Hitpoint kills. So the XP you gain is from the Doubler. So really, you are better served choosing one or t'other.

#184 kstbhs

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Posted 14 April 2015 - 12:27

Both of them? TDouble does not give you extra XP, just Titan Hitpoint kills. So the XP you gain is from the Doubler. So really, you are better served choosing one or t'other.

if you have level 150 TD and level 150 DB how much stam would a 1-hit kill cost?



#185 MrSiggs

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Posted 14 April 2015 - 12:50

this update of titan doubler and teleport has ruined titan hunting for good..where is the challenge now ? this will also devaluate all epics to gold soon..guess that part of the game is ruined..giving up my titan leader position due to it..congrats for making it easy..now all can see how 1 did it for years



#186 BigGrim

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Posted 14 April 2015 - 13:09

Off topic flame baiting deleted.

#187 kstbhs

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Posted 14 April 2015 - 13:13

Is there a limit to how many max titans can remain active at a time and no more titans will spawn until existing ones are cleared?



#188 yghorbeviahn

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Posted 14 April 2015 - 13:37

As far as I can understand about Quest Hunter:

- doesn't use extra stamina.
- doesn't give extra xp, gxp, gold, kill streak, medal count (talking about quest titans, quest SEs).
- doesn't count for Guild Achievements.

The only thing that buff does is to make 1 kill count like 4 kills on the questbook.

Is that right BG?
That work on the Titans too?

If I kill 1 Elemental Titan for the EP Quest:
- With TitanD and QH: 4 kills on Questbook, 4 kills on Titan HP, 4 stamina use, 4x XP/GXP, 4x gold.

Is that right?

#189 BigGrim

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Posted 14 April 2015 - 13:46

If I kill 1 Elemental Titan for the EP Quest:
- With TitanD and QH: 4 kills on Questbook, 4 kills on Titan HP, 4 stamina use, 4x XP/GXP, 4x gold.

Is that right?


That looks right to me.

*Edit*

Actually, I'm wrong. TDoubler and Quest Hunter will give :

4 kills on Questbook, 4 kills on Titan HP.

Sorry, I thought I read Doubler in there as well.

#190 Leos3000

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Posted 14 April 2015 - 14:03

Can I borrow hoof test for the day and go try all the different buff combinations asked for and report back my findings on how they interact? :)

#191 yghorbeviahn

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Posted 14 April 2015 - 14:18

That looks right to me.


Can you change the XP/GXP thing?
I really don't like people holding so much GXP by killing titans (that happened A LOT with Eater of Time before the tweak, and few times with Kraganath).

I can accept people having multiple GXP with Doubler, but with TitanD and Doubler the numbers could go insanely high, over only one player.

#192 kstbhs

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Posted 14 April 2015 - 14:22

As far as I can understand about Quest Hunter:

- doesn't use extra stamina.
- doesn't give extra xp, gxp, gold, kill streak, medal count (talking about quest titans, quest SEs).
- doesn't count for Guild Achievements.

The only thing that buff does is to make 1 kill count like 4 kills on the questbook.

Is that right BG?
That work on the Titans too?

If I kill 1 Elemental Titan for the EP Quest:
- With TitanD and QH: 4 kills on Questbook, 4 kills on Titan HP, 4 stamina use, 4x XP/GXP, 4x gold.

Is that right?

 

 

That looks right to me.

 

 

Can you change the XP/GXP thing?
I really don't like people holding so much GXP by killing titans (that happened A LOT with Eater of Time before the tweak, and few times with Kraganath).

I can accept people having multiple GXP with Doubler, but with TitanD and Doubler the numbers could go insanely high, over only one player.

Grim, didn't you say earlier that only kills are multiplied and not the earnings from killing titans using titan doubler



#193 BigGrim

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Posted 14 April 2015 - 14:30

If I kill 1 Elemental Titan for the EP Quest:
- With TitanD and QH: 4 kills on Questbook, 4 kills on Titan HP, 4 stamina use, 4x XP/GXP, 4x gold.

Is that right?


Actually, I was wrong. TDoubler and Quest Hunter will give :

4 kills on Questbook, 4 kills on Titan HP.

Sorry, I thought I read Doubler in there as well.

#194 Nagoyaka

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Posted 14 April 2015 - 14:57

Can you change the XP/GXP thing?
I really don't like people holding so much GXP by killing titans (that happened A LOT with Eater of Time before the tweak, and few times with Kraganath).

I can accept people having multiple GXP with Doubler, but with TitanD and Doubler the numbers could go insanely high, over only one player.

 

Do the math and you will realize how insanely high amount of stamina it would take. And if someone wants to hunt it for GXP, they do spend the stamina for it. Why is this okey on a champion, but not a titan? The difference with their XP is no gamebreaking at all. With the first version Eater of Time I can understand, but Kraganath dont give much XP at all. You taking this out of proportion.

 

Most choose to hunt champion with AM500 instead, so they don't have to move around on map, the difference in GXP between those two is not big at all. Choose to chase a titan for a lil extra, or choose to stand on champion with AM500 and get a little less but get it very easy. I can maybe understand you want it easy, so better to have the other option disabled from others to use.

 

Edit: hm, if I understand BG right, titan doubler don't affect gold/xp at all, so you dont have to ask anymore


Edited by Nagoyaka, 14 April 2015 - 15:09.


#195 tief

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Posted 14 April 2015 - 16:05

may be off topic but is there a time limit for the skill resets?



#196 Mister Doom

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Posted 14 April 2015 - 16:08

may be off topic but is there a time limit for the skill resets?

 

No, I still have mine from the last time we had a free skill reset.


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#197 yghorbeviahn

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Posted 14 April 2015 - 18:37

Do the math and you will realize how insanely high amount of stamina it would take. And if someone wants to hunt it for GXP, they do spend the stamina for it. Why is this okey on a champion, but not a titan? The difference with their XP is no gamebreaking at all. With the first version Eater of Time I can understand, but Kraganath dont give much XP at all. You taking this out of proportion.

Most choose to hunt champion with AM500 instead, so they don't have to move around on map, the difference in GXP between those two is not big at all. Choose to chase a titan for a lil extra, or choose to stand on champion with AM500 and get a little less but get it very easy. I can maybe understand you want it easy, so better to have the other option disabled from others to use.

Edit: hm, if I understand BG right, titan doubler don't affect gold/xp at all, so you dont have to ask anymore


Yeah, and now I see not much problem. I think that every player should have a limit GXP according to his VL, but that's just me.

My concerns was about Doubler working together with Titan Doubler, giving a lot more boost.

If Titan Doubler doesn't work with XP, no problem.

#198 gilby90813

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Posted 14 April 2015 - 20:40

i guess every guild will be on cool down if titans are dropping like flys hahahaha



#199 Ringhal

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Posted 14 April 2015 - 20:49

All this confusion about the various buffs is the exact reason why the devs either need to play the game (as we do) or open a test (aplha) server where players can test any new additions to the game - without any restrictions or limitations.

#200 RED

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Posted 14 April 2015 - 23:17

Wow, i cannot believe the discussion about the Invert buff. Whoever said that PVP`rs should always have an instant WIN button anyway. Get a grip, it`s player verses player and I think all buffs are fair game in PVP.




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