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Poll: Bounty Free Advertising (53 member(s) have cast votes)

Does offering bounty free attacks for Prestige in your bio degrade the game?

  1. Yes? (36 votes [67.92%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 67.92%

  2. No? (17 votes [32.08%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 32.08%

Should Prestige earned be determined by stam used to deter manipulation?

  1. Yes? (38 votes [71.70%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 71.70%

  2. No? (15 votes [28.30%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 28.30%

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#41 moonfrost

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Posted 08 June 2015 - 05:01

Why not make it so that pvp prestige can only be earned on the pvp bounty board?

Because pvp isn't just limited to the bounty board as generally the bounty board is considered the punishment for a pvp attack. You can currently gain 10 prestige points through a single attack every 3 days either on ladder or off, regardless of stamina used(which needs to change to 1 prestige point per 10 stamina used), or 1 point for each successful attack on the bounty board. Since pvp is the riskiest part of this game, in that you can potentially lose 5 levels for a single attack, it only makes sense that those who choose to take that risk be rewarded with prestige. But the posting in bios offering free prestige hits without bounty needs to also be eliminated as that suddenly removes the risk of pvp and loopholes the entire idea thereby destroying the very integrity of the game which needs to be brought back into it. This game has survived almost 9 years now for a reason and the things that made it great way back when need to be brought up to date so we can continue to enjoy this game and help it grow.



#42 Egami

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 00:35

I hope this post is "helpful" to future polls, though I've said it time and time again. 

 

Please remember when posting a poll that you should include a "don't care" and/or "no opinion" option (personally, I prefer both). 

 

In the current example: I cannot answer the first question. On the second, I would have voted "yes".

 

Unfortunately, since I have no option in the first question, I am unable to vote in the second. 

 

In any case, word has it that the new PvP system will be "in" this Friday. 

 

Prosperous smacking everybody.



#43 insaner6

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 06:07

despite the leading answers on the poll questions, i'd like to point out 1 thing..

"bounty free attacks for Prestige in your bio"    imo, promote pvp.. there might be players, that feel free to pvp knowing this.

 

#44 yghorbeviahn

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 06:44

despite the leading answers on the poll questions, i'd like to point out 1 thing..

"bounty free attacks for Prestige in your bio"    imo, promote pvp.. there might be players, that feel free to pvp knowing this.

 

You mean, "bounty free" bios brings more PvP into the game?

You call hitting an unbuffed player wearing Epics PvP? Really?
 



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Posted 12 June 2015 - 11:36

Oh my, I laugh when I read words like ¨integrity¨ when referencing PvP or GVG or almost any part of this game.  If there is a way to manipulate a situation it tis game it happens.  It has happened.  It will continue to happen.  I voted no on both polls.



#46 insaner6

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Posted 13 June 2015 - 18:00

You mean, "bounty free" bios brings more PvP into the game?

You call hitting an unbuffed player wearing Epics PvP? Really?
 

on the first question, i said it might be a yes, imo it could be one of the reasons that could promote pvp.

on your second question..  i'm still looking to see if i ever typed or said something like that.. Really.



#47 wil72

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Posted 13 June 2015 - 18:39

Oh my, I laugh when I read words like ¨integrity¨ when referencing PvP or GVG or almost any part of this game.  If there is a way to manipulate a situation it tis game it happens.  It has happened.  It will continue to happen.  I voted no on both polls.

 

Fallen Sword is a GAME. "Integrity"..... who cares. Now cheating, that's another matter.

 

Cheers.

 

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#48 Kedyn

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Posted 15 June 2015 - 15:40

on the first question, i said it might be a yes, imo it could be one of the reasons that could promote pvp.

 

As a question, do you consider free hits for PVP prestige the same as free GVG advertising? They mainly are the same thing (one benefits by giving points to get bonus XP, while another benefits by giving RP). If one is not allowed to advertise free wins in GVG, then why should one be able to advertise free unbountied hits for Prestige?

 

While behind the scenes, I bet many people can still meet and set up those things, it's the idea of being able to advertise it. Does it really promote PVP? I am not certain. Does it mean that one player attacks another, yes. Does it sometimes lead to bountying? Yes. I don't think many people are fully buffing up to attack one another, which was the reason that the player mentioned hitting someone in epics - as that's generally what happens.

 

It would be nice to see some game admins weighing in on this topic.



#49 Egami

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 03:12

I decided to revisit this thread. 

 

On a personal level, I'm way more concerned about bios that state things like "Enemies = Allies".

 

However, I don't think the solution is to encourage even further censorship in a game that is restricted to players of age 13 or older or that requires parental supervision. 

 

My personal "solution" to this would be that it is handled in game. 

 

Personally, I wanted to advertise, spending my own FSP on boxes, that I would 100 stam any bounty that goes up on a player that has "Attack = Bounty" or "Hitting for prestige" in their bio. But the truth is, I was worried about censorship and the reality is that I simply couldn't possibly comply with that. 

 

Hmmm, I wonder what the new PvP system will be like, lol.



#50 sweetlou

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Posted 03 July 2015 - 13:57

It's pretty sad there has been no comment on this thread nor has there been any update on the PvP update. What is going on?


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#51 Hoofmaster

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Posted 03 July 2015 - 14:07

We're still working on the PvP Update, but hope to release it towards the end of July once it's been fully tested  :)



#52 Altiger

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 16:38

We're still working on the PvP Update, but hope to release it towards the end of July once it's been fully tested  :)

please test it before you put it in the game and who is testing it? admins and , or players?



#53 Bildor

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Posted 08 July 2015 - 03:15

Prestige is fine the way it is. I've lost plenty on levels collecting it. I'm not too keen on bio censorship. As long as it is not offensive, does not matter to me what people say.



#54 EpicPiety

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Posted 08 July 2015 - 03:19

please test it before you put it in the game and who is testing it? admins and , or players?

They should have a test server for major updates... For select few players...



#55 sweetlou

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Posted 09 July 2015 - 07:13

Prestige is fine the way it is. I've lost plenty on levels collecting it. I'm not too keen on bio censorship. As long as it is not offensive, does not matter to me what people say.

 

Prestige has become an absolute joke already like scripting in Titans became because of how slowly the game has been developed in the last few years to respond to player collusion and manipulation. It was acknowledged by HCS that teleport was a direct response to the inability to catch Titan scripters. We've needed an adjustment to how Prestige is earned for a long time! Make 10 stam attacks always gain 1 Prestige point while 100 stam attacks always gain 10 points. There's the solution to stop Prestige collusion in one sentence!

 

Since there hasn't been any comment regarding this topic from HCS, if they want to eventually acknowledge posting advertisements in bios regarding bounty free prestige hits will remain ok then I would like to know why I'm prohibited from posting free GvG wins? Why the discrepancy with two sets of rules? It's collusion in both cases and it degradates the game. HCS needs to pay attention to how the game is perceived in game and not just how we write about it here in the forums!

 

Prestige was NEVER intended to be used by players who NEVER PvP unless it is safe!!! I wish some players and especially HCS would remember that.


Edited by BigGrim, 09 July 2015 - 15:30.

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#56 Hoofmaster

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Posted 09 July 2015 - 15:25

Since there hasn't been any comment regarding this topic from HCS, if they want to eventually acknowledge posting advertisements in bios regarding bounty free prestige hits will remain ok then I would like to know why I'm prohibited from posting free GvG wins? Why the discrepancy with two sets of rules? It's collusion in both cases and it degradates the game. HCS needs to pay attention to how the game is perceived in game and not just how we write about it here in the forums!

 

I did reply to this saying the new PvP Update will be going live in late July. Since there will be changes to the Bounty Board and how PvP Prestige works don't think this will be an issue after the update.



#57 Calista

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Posted 09 July 2015 - 15:49

Ugh,  more threats of how you're going to change everything without ANY consideration to how this is affecting your players! Give us some sort of answers instead of more vague references to changes that you guys are not even in agreement on yourselves. The waiting is BEYOND tedious now.


 


#58 Hoofmaster

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Posted 09 July 2015 - 16:08

Ugh,  more threats of how you're going to change everything without ANY consideration to how this is affecting your players! Give us some sort of answers instead of more vague references to changes that you guys are not even in agreement on yourselves. The waiting is BEYOND tedious now.

 

It's not a threat at all - I'm just saying that with the upcoming changes I don't think this will be an issue any more :)

 

I'm refraining from posting up all the details of the new PvP Update as from past experience it tends to cause a lot of speculation and, this time, I would prefer if people give it a try then give us feedback based on their experience with it first so we can make further improvements.



#59 Calista

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Posted 09 July 2015 - 16:16

In case it hasn't been made clear,  this upcoming update is a make or break one for alot of your players. We've enjoyed your game for years. We're giving you the benefit of the doubt that there will be something left to salvage at the end of this. But confidence is waning and comments giving us no answers but making it clear you still intend to change everything are not helping. Something needs to be decided and put into writing. You need to define this for your players already so we know what game we have left to play.


Edited by Calista, 09 July 2015 - 16:17.

 


#60 Maehdros

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Posted 09 July 2015 - 16:38

As someone who's spent alot of time and money investing into this game over the years, I truly hope this new update works for the community. I've lost pretty much all interest in the game , outside of occasionally leveling or helping defend guildmates when called upon. This revamp has the potential to revitalize a major aspect of FS.


I'll wait and see what happens


Cheers~

Edited by Maehdros, 09 July 2015 - 16:39.



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