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#1 sweetlou

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 22:12

After Zorg said Prestige was fixed, it isn't! Prestige is not working! https://forums.hunte...e-5#entry945396

 

Not only is Prestige not awarded for Ladder attacks but it isn't being earned on BB attacks as well!

 

Please Fix!


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#2 Hoofmaster

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 22:13

Looking into this now!



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Posted 18 August 2015 - 22:27

This should definately be fixed now. Please let us know if you are still seeing any issues.



#4 sweetlou

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 22:34

Isn't it supposed to notify us if we gain Prestige? It is working on the Profile page yet isn't in notifying on the combat page.


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Posted 18 August 2015 - 22:45

Isn't it supposed to notify us if we gain Prestige? It is working on the Profile page yet isn't in notifying on the combat page.

 

Looks like the fix made it add correctly but it still wasn't displaying on the combat. This is fixed now as well. Thanks for reporting it :)



#6 sweetlou

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 22:49

It is working again. I'm clearing on the BB at the very moment so I know. Thanks for the fix!

 

Does this fix cover all types of attacks?

 

Could we get all attacks on the Ladder to gain Prestige?

 

Could we adjust Prestige to be gained by the amount of stam used to stop collusion?


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Posted 18 August 2015 - 22:56

Does this fix cover all types of attacks?

 
It should do yes, note that PvP Prestige isn't gained from Guild Conflicts or the PvP Arena though.
 

Could we get all attacks on the Ladder to gain Prestige?

 
You mean ignore the 3 day restriction for PvP Ladder attacks? I think that may be a good idea but can you please post a suggestion thread on it and see what others think if there isn't a thread on it already.
 

Could we adjust Prestige to be gained by the amount of stam used to stop collusion?

 

Again please post a seperate suggestion thread on this with how you'd like to see it changed and we can chat it over :)



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Posted 18 August 2015 - 23:03

 

 
It should do yes, note that PvP Prestige isn't gained from Guild Conflicts or the PvP Arena though.
 
 
You mean ignore the 3 day restriction for PvP Ladder attacks? I think that may be a good idea but can you please post a suggestion thread on it and see what others think if there isn't a thread on it already.
 
 

 

Again please post a seperate suggestion thread on this with how you'd like to see it changed and we can chat it over :)

 

Ok, so you really want to be inundated with a thread per idea? It's going to bring the Forum back to life if that's your intention. I'm worried it will only water down each idea. Maybe make another thread for new ideas.

 

Also, is conserve working in PvP, because I have Con315 running for almost 20 attacks and it hasn't activated once?


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#9 Hoofmaster

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 23:14

We've not made any changes to Conserve so it should be working fine. I'll ask Zorg to check it tomorrow though just to be sure.

As for the threads - I think it's better with separate threads for different ideas, but feel free to group related ideas together into one thread. I'd think one thread would be fine for both the ideas you suggested here :)

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Posted 19 August 2015 - 01:35

Why did the #2 2zina get the #1 Leos3000 medal aswell for placing 1st?



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Posted 19 August 2015 - 01:42

i noticed the other active thread got locked - can some one put up a new thread with links to the active threads - that way we can find the thread we are looking for easily 



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Posted 19 August 2015 - 02:39

Hoof - when you get back on, non-ladder PVP hits are not giving any prestige.



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Posted 19 August 2015 - 04:47

 

 
It should do yes, note that PvP Prestige isn't gained from Guild Conflicts or the PvP Arena though.
 
 
You mean ignore the 3 day restriction for PvP Ladder attacks? I think that may be a good idea but can you please post a suggestion thread on it and see what others think if there isn't a thread on it already.
 
 

 

Again please post a seperate suggestion thread on this with how you'd like to see it changed and we can chat it over :)

 

Hmmm, ignoring the 3 day restriction for PvP Ladder attacks, no I don't see a huge opportunity for collusion there.


 


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Posted 19 August 2015 - 05:41

HCS should log the amount of kills this week and compare to last week ;P



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Posted 19 August 2015 - 05:57

Hmmm, ignoring the 3 day restriction for PvP Ladder attacks, no I don't see a huge opportunity for collusion there.

Think about it before jumping to conclusions. The 3 day cool down was instituted because some players who detest PvP were being bombarded with attacks for Prestige hourly. When Prestige began it was earned hitting ALL players every hit. Gaining Prestige on every hit was how it was supposed to be earned had it not been from complaints from players who want nothing to do with PvP.

 

The Ladder is now filled with MORE players who OPTED-IN(Who expect to be attacked). If you add the new 10 stam attack=1 Prestige and 100 stam attack=10 Prestige rule to earn the points, sorry the only players trading are the ones playing the Ladder. Add some decent potions as rewards to use with the tokens and you will have a vibrant Ladder. That is what we want. It's another reason to join the Ladder. Why do earn Prestige every BB attack? Because the players are on the BB have an expectation of being there!


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Posted 19 August 2015 - 06:04

Why did the #2 2zina get the #1 Leos3000 medal aswell for placing 1st?

 

 

I have alredy asked in the previous thread why is it possible there are two players with PvP mastery medal but guess it was lost in the load of posts made there...

 

However I am still curious about that.



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Posted 19 August 2015 - 06:54

Think about it before jumping to conclusions. The 3 day cool down was instituted because some players who detest PvP were being bombarded with attacks for Prestige hourly. When Prestige began it was earned hitting ALL players every hit. Gaining Prestige on every hit was how it was supposed to be earned had it not been from complaints from players who want nothing to do with PvP.

 

The Ladder is now filled with MORE players who OPTED-IN(Who expect to be attacked). If you add the new 10 stam attack=1 Prestige and 100 stam attack=10 Prestige rule to earn the points, sorry the only players trading are the ones playing the Ladder. Add some decent potions as rewards to use with the tokens and you will have a vibrant Ladder. That is what we want. It's another reason to join the Ladder. Why do earn Prestige every BB attack? Because the players are on the BB have an expectation of being there!

There are a total of 69 players on the ladders right now, comprising a total of 31 from the lowest level to 749 and a total of 38 from 750 to 2500.  You are asking for special treatment for a minuscule population of the FS community that the rest of the community has no interest in participating in.  You speak of a Ladders filled with players who opted in but in reality from the 38 players in levels 750 to 2500, 19 of them, a full 50%, are players from your guild who cannot hit each other.  I would hardly call that a successful roll out of the ladder but it is a wonderful opportunity to build up more prestige in a manner that the majority of FS players don't want to participate in should HCS waive the 3 day CD. I do not begrudge your guild's participation in the ladders I just object to the lifting of the 3 day CD for prestige hits.  


 


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Posted 19 August 2015 - 13:21

There are a total of 69 players on the ladders right now, comprising a total of 31 from the lowest level to 749 and a total of 38 from 750 to 2500.  You are asking for special treatment for a minuscule population of the FS community that the rest of the community has no interest in participating in.  You speak of a Ladders filled with players who opted in but in reality from the 38 players in levels 750 to 2500, 19 of them, a full 50%, are players from your guild who cannot hit each other.  I would hardly call that a successful roll out of the ladder but it is a wonderful opportunity to build up more prestige in a manner that the majority of FS players don't want to participate in should HCS waive the 3 day CD. I do not begrudge your guild's participation in the ladders I just object to the lifting of the 3 day CD for prestige hits.  

 

I think that we need to wait another reset or two before we can truly get the numbers accurate. I chose not to opt in because I was down to 200 stamina after seasons. Am I going to opt in later? Maybe, but I solely know that I opted-out based on the amount of stamina I had. 



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Posted 19 August 2015 - 14:36

There are a total of 69 players on the ladders right now, comprising a total of 31 from the lowest level to 749 and a total of 38 from 750 to 2500.  You are asking for special treatment for a minuscule population of the FS community that the rest of the community has no interest in participating in.  You speak of a Ladders filled with players who opted in but in reality from the 38 players in levels 750 to 2500, 19 of them, a full 50%, are players from your guild who cannot hit each other.  I would hardly call that a successful roll out of the ladder but it is a wonderful opportunity to build up more prestige in a manner that the majority of FS players don't want to participate in should HCS waive the 3 day CD. I do not begrudge your guild's participation in the ladders I just object to the lifting of the 3 day CD for prestige hits.  

bingo !!!  pvper make up less than  5% of the overall fs community..but they get 80% of the attention from HOOF.. and 95% of the attention in forums..no wonder the game is going downhill..cater to the 5% or less and devs could care less about the other 95% of us..less than 100 players out of over 3000 total..pathetic...get a new pvp system with no xp loss and watch the pvp numbers grow..we spent a few months last year coming up with a pvp system for all to enjoy..shot down by HOOF so fast it was not even funny..now 10 months later..back where we started..what a waste of time and effort...



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Posted 19 August 2015 - 15:59

I think that we need to wait another reset or two before we can truly get the numbers accurate. I chose not to opt in because I was down to 200 stamina after seasons. Am I going to opt in later? Maybe, but I solely know that I opted-out based on the amount of stamina I had. 

I'm sorry guys today I have way to much time on my hands...1st we did not give the Season's any chance at all before the PvP segment was screaming about the PvP changes so why wait for a reset or two to get accurate numbers on it. 2nd the reset has now passed 27 hours and the BB has nothing but air on it. 3.  Lets talk about this ladder's hardcore participation and again I'm going to focus on the 750 and up ladders.  We already know that 50% of the participants in this segment (ladders 750-2999) are from the same guild lets look at the what these "hard core" PvPer's are wearing...Ladder 750-999 4 participants, 2 wearing stam gear 2 not, ladder 1000-1499, 7 participants 3 in stam gear 4 not, ladder 1500-1999 1 wearing stam gear 4 not (3 are from same PvP guild), ladder 2000-2499 2 wearing stam gear, 10 not ( this ladder has 10 participants from the same guild) ladder 2500-2999 7 in stam gear 3 not. From the participation totals we have 38 players of which 15 or 39.47% are battling it out in stam gear and the one ladder which has 10 of 12 in actual combat gear has 10 participants who can't hit one another. Explain to me again please why we reverted to this absolutely abysmal PvP ladder and BB system and for what was hoped to be accomplished with it? I understand that I am omitting the below 750 levels but it seems that we upended a promising  PvP update to satisfy literally a handful of  PvP players.  Again let me reiterate, of the 38 participants in the 750 and above ladders 23 are in actual combat gear and of those most can't hit each other and 15 are "fighting" in stam gear. Given what I am looking at the Season and Bounty Board that was just dismantled was a vast improvement over what we have reverted to.


Edited by Rocknoor, 19 August 2015 - 16:07.

 



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