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#81 Olef

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 00:08

And those potions don't have much value and they are two days old! Where do you use them? To gain more tokens by using them would only happen if they cost much, much less.

 

Cloak potion and untradable Pestige pot are the exceptions. The Prestige pot is now redundant because of how Prestige points are cashed in now.

they should remove the pvp ladder potions (except the bound prestige potion) and give them to the pvp arena, then the arena will have new 'great' rewards for overpriced arena tokens ;P


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#82 Kedyn

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 02:25

For future rewards, I would think so yeah - I think it's a good thing to involve many aspects of the game in the recipes to both increase participation in them or to encourage players to trade :)

 

Hoof - can we see GVG updated prior to Arena? There have been plenty more updates more recently for arena than there has been for GVG.



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Posted 11 September 2015 - 03:23

they should remove the pvp ladder potions (except the bound prestige potion) and give them to the pvp arena, then the arena will have new 'great' rewards for overpriced arena tokens ;P

What would be nice is to be able to use one type of currency, call them all tokens, to buy any rewards the game offers through any type of game play that a player excels at! Stop constraining players.


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Posted 11 September 2015 - 09:21

That would be the complete opposite of what we're trying to do. Encourage players to partake in ALL sections of the game.

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 13:24

For future rewards, I would think so yeah - I think it's a good thing to involve many aspects of the game in the recipes to both increase participation in them or to encourage players to trade :)

 

Sadly, the ladder is the only part of the game I can think of that has most of its rewards bound. Though please correct me if I'm wrong. I don't play every avenue of the game, and could very well be incorrect.

 

I'm not necessarily for making things easier for players either. It would be interesting to see other parts of the game face the same strict requirements you're forcing on the ladder players now. How would SE hunters react to drops they couldn't sell or do anything with until they played for bound arena items? How well would the titan hunters react to chasing a titan around only to get a bound item that requires them to hunt an SE to do anything with?  I'm game to see.  Just even the playing field instead of once again punishing PvP players.


 


#86 BigGrim

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 13:56

We're not "punishing" anyone and as we've pointed out, the majority of players are liking what we're doing.

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 14:13

We're not "punishing" anyone and as we've pointed out, the majority of players are liking what we're doing.

 

Sorry Grim, but you missed the majority of my post.  Do other areas of the game face the same bound reward issues that the ladder does? The updates suggested all sound like ways of making the ladder players need items from other areas of the game. When are other areas of the game going to need to face that same issue? SE hunters, Arena players, etc can just sell their winning off.  That's not how the ladder rewards work. I'm sorry if the word 'punishment' is what you have issue with. Does it work better if I say the 'inequality' of it is what is the problem for those of US who are posting with issues with the update?


 


#88 Leos3000

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 14:15

Pretty sure the majority of rewards from globals are bound.

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 14:19

That would be the complete opposite of what we're trying to do. Encourage players to partake in ALL sections of the game.

At one time I prided myself in wanting to and taking part in all segments of the game(ck my medal achievements), but how has it worked out for the game? Why constrict players? They will want to play their preferred style regardless of the obstacles you throw in their way. What is the purpose? If you reflect, by segregating players you have achieved the current state of divisiveness that has appeared almost immediately from the start. I would think trying the opposite might help you in your quest to retain/gain more players, being inclusive and bringing players together. Isn't getting people to PLAY really your first goal?


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#90 sweetlou

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 14:20

Pretty sure the majority of rewards from globals are bound.

And those pots are ridiculously overpowered!


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#91 Calista

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 14:21

Pretty sure the majority of rewards from globals are bound.

 

You're right. The global pots are bound. Not that I would ever sell them off. But thanks, that is one area of the game where the bound issue is also prevalent. Are we going to now require SE or Arena items to use our global pots?


 


#92 BigGrim

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 14:33

We'll be continuing forward as we have stated we shall.

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 14:41

We'll be continuing forward as we have stated we shall.

Why don't you join a Ladder and try competing for up to 48hrs and see what it takes to earn tokens?


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Posted 11 September 2015 - 14:43

We'll be continuing forward as we have stated we shall.

#95 Calista

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 15:00

We'll be continuing forward as we have stated we shall.

 

Well Grim, thanks for your continued dedication to the game. When Hoof is around and actually answering the questions instead of telling us we're the only ones asking, I'll look back. Have a great day doing all that you say you shall. I'm just asking for clarification on what that is.


 


#96 Olef

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 15:03

Why don't you join a Ladder and try competing for up to 48hrs and see what it takes to earn tokens?

i second that



#97 Leos3000

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 15:07

i second that

Or just watch all the effort currently being used on the 2000-2499 ladder... o wait that is none and they are still collecting tokens for doing nothing...

 

Major flaw with the ladder is that people can sit on it do nothing and still get rewards. This is something that needs to be addressed.



#98 sweetlou

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 15:09

Or just watch all the effort currently being used on the 2000-2499 ladder... o wait that is none and they are still collecting tokens for doing nothing...

 

Major flaw with the ladder is that people can sit on it do nothing and still get rewards. This is something that needs to be addressed.

Sure there's still flaws. It's why we are wasting our time and effort trying to help fix it.


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#99 Olef

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 15:16

Or just watch all the effort currently being used on the 2000-2499 ladder... o wait that is none and they are still collecting tokens for doing nothing...

 

Major flaw with the ladder is that people can sit on it do nothing and still get rewards. This is something that needs to be addressed.

if nobody else is joining that band how is it our fault

 

leos3000, your guild has many members who could join that band, why do not they?



#100 EpicPiety

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 15:18

It's becoming more and more clear that people can't accept things unless it was suggested by them.


if nobody else is joining that band how is it our fault

 

leos3000, your guild has many members who could join that band, why do not they?

Why do you join the ladder? Dominance medal is practically free. Where is the honor in that. The progress i earned in seasons was the only time i actually felt good about gaining progress. Token farming is sort of a washed up occupation in FS if you ask me.


Edited by EpicPiety, 11 September 2015 - 15:25.



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