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#21 Sascaroth

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 20:07

Some people (like me) come to the forums daily, read the new posts and then leave without posting anything. 


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#22 Spirit

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 06:20

You know... not too sure why some people want to see more and more news (to the point where it to be weekly) when Eldevin is a indie MMORPG with a small team. They have been doing monthly dev posts for most months now with expected development in between. I don't expect them to have new information every week... when they are probably working on making stuff. And there are 4-5 pending updates (50 dungeon, guild rankings/stuff, questbook rework, barber > hairstyles, Scribes and they have mentioned they'd like to work on end-game content when they can) and maybe 6 when if AH is being worked on.

As for more information i.e Scribes - it's likely they are still developing it and things could change at that point. So if they said one thing but had to change it for a reason, then that info isn't viable anymore.

A good example is release of mounts. They had an issue with making mounts being able to stand still but released mounts regardless. Which is why Nightmare is like this. Like two weeks later, they were able to solve the issue lol.

I think monthly posts are fine the way it is. It's just takes them time to get content out.

Edited by Spirit, 07 January 2016 - 06:34.

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#23 minddrag

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 15:17

The point is that we dont want eldevin to be a small indie RPG, we want it to be a big game with lots of players so that we can actually form groups and run dungeons faster and easier.  The more players the more money, the more updates, the more players.  Its a growing circle, as long as there is investment and a good startup.  As of right now, were in a pit.  No communication, losing players, losing money, losing mods or reassigning them, then less communication again.  We need to dig eldevin out of the pit, persay.


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#24 Aliarth

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 17:06

The point is that we dont want eldevin to be a small indie RPG, we want it to be a big game with lots of players so that we can actually form groups and run dungeons faster and easier.  The more players the more money, the more updates, the more players.  Its a growing circle, as long as there is investment and a good startup.  As of right now, were in a pit.  No communication, losing players, losing money, losing mods or reassigning them, then less communication again.  We need to dig eldevin out of the pit, persay.

You can't. Because:

* No one likes tailoring.

* No one have time to kill boss all 10 minutes and complete ASV without any PAUSE all 30 minutes.

* No one likes waiting. All year to get normal gear.

* No one likes TA.

* No one likes LAG.

* No one likes waiting for groups. Better do it fast in solo.

* No one likes health/mana increase, accuracy and health/mana regeneration gems.

* No one gonna spend money on game what they not like.

 

This game playing just BETA players, because they not wanna to lose theyr all 2 years created character.

 

And finaly this game is doomed. Better stop thinking about digging game out of pit. :D

This game need to have very much fun with beautiful story line. Like the movie. :)

 

ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY. :D


Edited by Aliarth, 07 January 2016 - 17:40.

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#25 minddrag

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 18:34

You can't. Because:

* No one likes tailoring.

* No one have time to kill boss all 10 minutes and complete ASV without any PAUSE all 30 minutes.

* No one likes waiting. All year to get normal gear.

* No one likes TA.

* No one likes LAG.

* No one likes waiting for groups. Better do it fast in solo.

* No one likes health/mana increase, accuracy and health/mana regeneration gems.

* No one gonna spend money on game what they not like.

 

This game playing just BETA players, because they not wanna to lose theyr all 2 years created character.

 

And finaly this game is doomed. Better stop thinking about digging game out of pit. :D

This game need to have very much fun with beautiful story line. Like the movie. :)

 

ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY. :D

If you play the game right, with a good computer, like I do you dont have any lag.  Lots of people like TA, I do, luke, magina, the whole omni guild... If your a nice and respected player like I am, you get groups fast.  People like to kill bosses and do ASV with friends, you just have to have friends ali.  What does tailoring have to do with anything.  And last but not least you dont wait to get better gear, you work, and you play.


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Posted 07 January 2016 - 18:55

Add ons would be nice.....


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Posted 07 January 2016 - 19:13

When I started a couple years ago the US server at this time was always around 100 players. Things have changed since then! :o :o :o

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 21:44

You can't. Because:

* No one likes tailoring.

* No one have time to kill boss all 10 minutes and complete ASV without any PAUSE all 30 minutes.

* No one likes waiting. All year to get normal gear.

* No one likes TA.

* No one likes LAG.

* No one likes waiting for groups. Better do it fast in solo.

* No one likes health/mana increase, accuracy and health/mana regeneration gems.

* No one gonna spend money on game what they not like.

 

Replace the words "no one" with  "Aliarth doesn't"


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Posted 07 January 2016 - 22:04

Replace the words "no one" with  "Aliarth doesn't"

Just because you like to waste you time. :D Me not hardcore like you. I better think.  :D

 

Waiting for something with more fun. :) Game got bored. :D


Edited by Aliarth, 07 January 2016 - 22:11.

Hello World.  :D


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Posted 07 January 2016 - 22:35

Just because you like to waste you time. :D Me not hardcore like you. I better think.  :D
 
Waiting for something with more fun. :) Game got bored. :D

What you consider a waste of time, others consider a salvageable good and promising game. We are discussing ways to save the game and make it prosper, not abandon it. If you think we are wasting out time, kindly stop replying. If you don't like those things, don't do them. DOsent mean they should not be developed.

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 22:54

Just because you like to waste you time. :D Me not hardcore like you. I better think.  :D

 

Waiting for something with more fun. :) Game got bored. :D

If you think this game is a waste of time, why are you still taking part in it and its forum? :D

 

Im certainly not a hard core player :D  and I have no idea what you are supposed to be better thinking :huh:

 

If you want something more fun why not come up with some constructive ideas for this game, rather than saying you want everything easy just for yourself. But, if you do have some ideas, try not to continuously contradict yourself :D


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Posted 07 January 2016 - 23:16

I'm not sure if the player mod would be such a good idea. I may have got the wrong end of the stick so I appologise minddrag if the following has gone off at a complete tangent.

 

I get the impression it will be a player doing a job for free, that a member of staff would normally be doing and getting payed for.

 

Also, (I think this is mentioned by someone else) the staff would have to communicate to the selected player what they wanted to say(post) to the general population. Which seems a bit long winded as they could just type the exact same post  on the forum and miss out the middle man.

If there is a volunteer and there are any enquiries regarding the post that the volunteer player can't answer, he/she will then have to contact the staff for the answer, whereas the the staff could just answer directly, saving time and possible confusion about players questions.


Edited by Steve1973, 07 January 2016 - 23:18.

When in doubt. Blame lag ;)


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Posted 07 January 2016 - 23:38

Tend to agree with RJ: if the cows aren't communicating effectively at present, then a player liaison is just going to add another layer of uncertainty and delay to the problem. Also, the risk is that a player liaison will at some stage (no doubt unintentionally) misrepresent the information they have---give ideas too much credence, or misunderstand HCS' timescales ...---which can cause more problems than it solves.

 

Effective and timely communication with the players really has to be an HCS responsibility.


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Posted 07 January 2016 - 23:42

Eldevin newspaper/magazine made by players also would be nice.Seriosly if
text and picture browser game have one,why our beloved 3d game cant have one also?Cows im still waiting for a answer and agama headpiece.

 

I'm not sure what this would add that can't already be done through the forums. Am I missing something? Or could this just be putting linked topics as headlines on the bulletin boards within Eldevin?

 

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#35 Brenzlo Xate

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Posted 08 January 2016 - 00:24

Greetings!!

 

Maybe it is a good idea or maybe it isn't. One thing is for sure though and that sure sounds like extra responsibilities to post stuff for the devs, but if one enjoys doing that stuff then sure why not I guess.

 

Though I don't see the purpose as to why the devs would need someone else to post stuff for them when they can do it themselves. Relaying development updates to someone else sounds unnecessary when they can just post it directly on the forums. I'm not opposed to the idea ofc, I'm open to whatever works for the game.

 

As for the devs not being online in the game a lot, it might be due to them being busy working on their games and that includes Eldevin. I can only try so much to see things from their perspective, and I can say that they're completely aware that they're behind schedule on Eldevin update releases such as the level 50 content and the scribe profession and are working at their best to catch up. 

 

If the devs don't post any update notes for upcoming releases it is most likely that they don't have them ready yet and having someone to post for them won't make a difference if there's nothing to post in the first place.

 

Do note, those are just my opinion and in no way do I think I'm absolutely right about em'.


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Posted 08 January 2016 - 01:09

Ok, apparently this needs some clearing up.
If you record a small message, we are working on _______ we discussed _________ and can send 3 short sentences or 5 sentences to a guy who makes it all fancy and nice like the cow posts are. Like it must take Moj 3 rounds of edits n stuff to check his grammar, spelling and everything, or players would tear them apart (you know the Internet). What I'm saying is Moj or somebody just sends u a 1 min vid of what's going on and the liaison types up a statement that is official, with proper grammar and all that jazz... Maybe they can get paid, but I was trying to be sensitive that the cows prob aren't bring in that much money anyways or would have higher staff. So if the cows want to pay they can or whatever, and it should be somebody you want to hear from, with a personality you know. I'm really hoping for some cow input on this sooner or later. Considering I'm rivalling the replies and views that their posts get ya'know.

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Posted 08 January 2016 - 04:17

I think in your mind you are imagining or hyping things too much, in the the sense that there would be that amount of info to require a moderator to actually come here to tell people stuff. I would imagine it would be at the pace it is right now.

 

Pure opinion of course, I highly doubt major meetings occur too much eldevin wise. They know probably what needs to be done or what each is working on and just talk casually at the desks until certain goals are done, then they brain storm in a meeting on where to focus next. I doubt they want a middle man/hindrance to have to go and explain stuff on where they are at currently as it puts pressure on them to constantly have progress. I would imagine this scenario rapidly breaks down as they either stop going to him as they get sick of it, or this liaison expands too much with his own interpretation or misunderstands some of these few sentences you seem to think will be enough. 

 

I would also highly think it is likely the staff on eldevin are swapped with their other company and work on other projects etc. I also think they have level 50 content and other things done and are sitting on it for a rainy day. I doubt they are going to tell this moderator all in house tales. 

 

They will work at their own pace and post when they wish, as they always have done. I would think it won't change and I assume the reason they don't post or do as much on the forums anymore is they are very slow at getting things done. That is just the way it is, they can't keep pace, they know this. Also from a pure guess, I would imagine the head of the company knows eldevin is a bomb in relation to what they were probably expecting and unless they have an ace up their sleeve it will only get slower, not faster ever. All of you still hardcore playing, pray this game gets some advertising and a revamp or just accept where this road is leading. Regardless if it takes next week, month, year, decade. 

 

Should hcs have done more to halt eldevins slide and listened to players and talked more and kept players informed and morale high, yes. But the boat has sailed and none of us will probs be building a time machine. 



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Posted 08 January 2016 - 14:00

i'd just like to see a minor weekly newsletter

 

it doesn't have to be super big but just a hey we're alive and kicking and trying to work this and this and this out and possibly some screenshots on the progress is always nice :)


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Posted 08 January 2016 - 14:11

I agree with you crip... I just see a player liason as somebody in game noobs can ask for help and tell the community the news. Like bg really...

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Posted 08 January 2016 - 14:35

Line really considering that BG does like 4 updates and 7 posts for dev updates a week the last were can ask for is 1 I'd a way to do it ourselves...

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