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#21 EpicPiety

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 02:49

He's not the only player that thinks this either... Because i'm tired of arguing i'm just going to say it. ANYONE arguing for these high level buffs is frankly uneducated about the subject at hand and should get educated before posting and defending that side of the argument.


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#22 Pythia

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 02:51

But, EP, why do you and others want them nerfed before I, and others going the slower route, get a chance to check them out.

 

I am  working,  but not real fast, toward that goal.

 

Give others a chance to get there before they are nerfed, so we can experience the glory of what you berate so often.



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Posted 14 February 2016 - 02:53

Nerf, nerf, nerf..  All of you that have them are still using them. lol

that not true and I thinking you not understanding, have you trying doing pvp against player who is high composer and you not?

I trying and I good pvper but I get butchering on ladder because I not high composer but opponent was, opponent was lower level than me and I having better sets I can wearing but he using crazy high composing potions for getting crazy stats, not normal

please reading this posting

https://forums.hunte...ty/#entry957991

 

problem is not for players who having high composing level, problem is for players who not having high composing level



#24 EpicPiety

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 02:53

But, EP, why do you and others want them nerfed before I, and others going the slower route, get a chance to check them out.

 

I am  working,  but not real fast, toward that goal.

 

Give others a chance to get there before they are nerfed, so we can experience the glory of what you berate so often.

I'm sorry your not thinking correctly...Can't argue with you. End of story.... I'll leave it at this it has NOTHING to do with a faster OR slower route... With or without composing 1 hitting is done with ease by any type of player that has sufficient knowledge on how buffs work. I'm asking to re-balance the buff levels to stop interfering with PvP and other aspects of the game. I'm not trying to be rude but you frankly don't know anything about composing you've admitted time and time again to not using it. So i don't understand how you can argue FOR or Against.



#25 kitobas

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 03:00

But, EP, why do you and others want them nerfed before I, and others going the slower route, get a chance to check them out.

 

I am  working,  but not real fast, toward that goal.

if you wanting checking high composing potion then you can easy, ask high composer in your guild or traveling composer for seeing crazy stats

 

Give others a chance to get there before they are nerfed, so we can experience the glory of what you berate so often.

this not logic because if more players spending many FSPS for getting high composing and then it getting nerfed it will be bigger problem

what glory? this not glory, if player needing using crazy high composing for getting crazy stats for pvp to winning against buffs 175 that not glory, I calling he not knowing pvp or coward



#26 Pythia

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 03:01

I play for fun, EP.

 

Not to get to EOC the fasted. Not to get to the top levels of composing fast. Not be the best with gear or buffs. Not to have the most medals, or anything else at fast, best, most.

 

Simply fun, it's the only real reason I ever play any game, and I've been playing games for 60 years.

 

My biggest thing is that players that did hurry to the top of this, that, or something are now saying things are broken.

 

Things must change, make the admin change this, or change that.

 

Grim and Hoof have both said that some of the areas are working like they should, no need to change. 

 

*sighs.*

 

At least let us others have a shot and the experiences you and the others have experienced.



#27 EpicPiety

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 03:05

I play for fun, EP.

 

Not to get to EOC the fasted. Not to get to the top levels of composing fast. Not be the best with gear or buffs. Not to have the most medals, or anything else at fast, best, most.

 

Simply fun, it's the only real reason I ever play any game, and I've been playing games for 60 years.

 

My biggest thing is that players that did hurry to the top of this, that, or something are now saying things are broken.

 

Things must change, make the admin change this, or change that.

 

Grim and Hoof have both said that some of the areas are working like they should, no need to change. 

 

*sighs.*

 

At least let us others have a shot and the experiences you and the others have experienced.

Sure let's wait 10 years for all the players to get to experience things HCS messed up each time they do... "Trust me they mess up a lot i would know"... You play this game for fun? You can't without the game being around. Frankly i play this game for fun just like anyone else... And because of that i am honestly concerned about this and many other things. Just like all the other people here.

 

**edit...

Just to point something else out many many people have been complaining about these high level skills WAY WAY BEFORE ANYONE REACHED THEM. This isn't a sudden change of heart for most??? So what if it is anyone? If somethings broken it has to be fixed no doubt about that.


Edited by EpicPiety, 14 February 2016 - 03:07.


#28 Pythia

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 03:05

If at some time in the future, the admin, decide to change composing then they will.

 

But for now, please, let the rhetoric rest about the god mode buffs.  I don't use high composed buffs, because I want to make my own, for myself.



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Posted 14 February 2016 - 03:08

If at some time in the future, the admin, decide to change composing then they will.

 

But for now, please, let the rhetoric rest about the god mode buffs.  I don't use high composed buffs, because I want to make my own, for myself.

you yourself saying you not using high composing so why is problem for you if high composing getting nerfing for not giving players crazy stats?

it will not affecting you

players who should getting problem with this should being high composers, not you



#30 EpicPiety

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 03:09

If at some time in the future, the admin, decide to change composing then they will.

 

But for now, please, let the rhetoric rest about the god mode buffs.  I don't use high composed buffs, because I want to make my own, for myself.

I will not stop advocating for the game's overall health. Care about the game too much :).



#31 Pythia

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 03:14

But Grim said composing is moving along as designed, and no change is planned.

 

You know better than Grim what is best for the game?

 

I'll watch and see if things change.



#32 EpicPiety

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 03:23

But Grim said composing is moving along as designed, and no change is planned.

 

You know better than Grim what is best for the game?

 

I'll watch and see if things change.

You'll find they say alot of things that they didnt really mean and change later :)



#33 kitobas

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 03:27

it is most problem for players who not high composers, it is not problem for high composers

 

I am very low composer and it is big problem for me, I doing pvp from beginning of original pvp system and never having problem, only starting getting problem when I having doing pvp against high composing

 

you pythia are not high composer and you not doing pvp so nerfing composing for pvp should not affecting you but why you against it? it not making sense

 

 

I play for fun, EP.

 

Simply fun, it's the only real reason I ever play any game, and I've been playing games for 60 years.

you saying you playing for fun, that good but is fun for you playing against player who having winning button with high composing? it not making sense

 

composing is problem for low composers because they having low stats

composing is not problem for high composers because they having winning button stats against high composers

 

do you understanding now?

for high composers it is better if composing staying and not getting nerfing but for players like me and you who are low composers it better getting nerfing

 

I hoping hoofmaster will reading this forum postings because he only one can do this changing for better of game



#34 Pythia

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 04:19

I understand, I have always understood, even if people don't think I do.

 

There are those advocating for the change, I am advocating for no change. 

 

Low level composers are working on composing, like I am.   If I wanted hi composed pots I too could get them.

 

I want to make my own. I would not be surprised if others feel like I do about this.

 

There are potions in every aspect of this game with the exception of the arena, I think.

 

Not using them puts some people at a disadvantage, so they would rather not have composing?

 

How convenient. 



#35 EpicPiety

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 04:29

I'm sorry your not thinking correctly...Can't argue with you. End of story.... I'll leave it at this it has NOTHING to do with a faster OR slower route... With or without composing 1 hitting is done with ease by any type of player that has sufficient knowledge on how buffs work. I'm asking to re-balance the buff levels to stop interfering with PvP and other aspects of the game. I'm not trying to be rude but you frankly don't know anything about composing you've admitted time and time again to not using it. So i don't understand how you can argue FOR or Against.

Re-read my post...Your like talking to a door sometimes lmao. Your advocating for no change even when HCS messes up which i quite often? I'm sorry just wrong in anyway you look at it. You wont even hit close to the OP buffs for 20 years at your current composing rate... Sometimes i just don't get people lol. So let the game rot for 20 years until you get there? So be it LET THE GAME ROT.


Edited by EpicPiety, 14 February 2016 - 04:31.


#36 Mister Doom

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 04:31

Like I said, save yourself the headache EP. It's pointless.


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#37 EpicPiety

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 04:33

Like I said, save yourself the headache EP. It's pointless.

It's such a headache...Just hope HCS pays more attention to the game and fixes the issues at hand... I understand the app takes precedence but before all else the game needs to be on lock down for a successful app.



#38 Filletminion

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 04:51

bro, what you saying for ladder already player shindrak saying long ago

 

I underlining his idea and my reply to him is same to you

 

I underlining answer

Of Course shin wants to play arena v 2 without buffs He is an Arena expert, When I suggested arena have moves removed and have buffs instead his answer was opposite of mine (understandably) everyone seems to want the game dumbed down to cater to their laziness.

 

Nerf, nerf, nerf..  All of you that have them are still using them. lol

Well they are great I can now hunt without ew beserk fury enchant armor shield glove boots amulet or any other damage increasing buff and still get overkill to work 100% of the time. Meaning by using sh 400 plus I can get more xp per kill.I would be an idiot not too and your solution is for me to cease using an update that I and others have spent hundreds of millions gaining..and if we did not we would not be able to compete in playing all of the game.



#39 j3k

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 05:36

composing kills and takes out the fun of ladder, why would one even try to go against some how who has 40k attack from high end composing pots. It to me discourages players from ladder as they know they don't have a chance against a player being backed by level 60 composer.

IMO composing shouldn't be ladder friendly 


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#40 Filletminion

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 05:49

composing kills and takes out the fun of ladder, why would one event try to go against some how who has 40k attack from high end composing pots. It to me discourages players from ladder as they know they don't have a chance against a player being backed by level 60 composer.

IMO composing shouldn't be ladder friendly 

The reality is you have had equal opportunity as those with high composing pots to have them it is by your own choice/ circumstance you do not.




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