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#221 yotekiller

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 11:49

100% of the rewards aren't worth the effort/stamina involved in them.

You've made it abundantly clear you don't like the dailies. Fine, don't do them but quit trying to rain on everyone's parade. Some people feel the rewards are worth the effort or they wouldn't be doing them. Some people like me pick and choose but to say 100% of rewards aren't worth it is blatantly untrue. My first daily was to defeat 3 active players in pvp for a reward of 100 current stam. I had 3 targets in epics so I changed gears, used no buffs and hit each with 10 stam. Total of 30 stam used for 100 stam reward = net gain of 70 stam. Totally worth it.

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#222 cucullainn

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 12:43

While I like the variety of aspects explored in these quests, for the love of god, can we at least break even on our stamina usage? I really do appreciate you guys putting in the time and effort to introduce these daily quests to the game, but I am beyond disappointed in the 'rewards'.
 
'Traverse 400 tiles' - reward +125 current stamina?
 
I mean... seriously? One, this isn't even an interesting one and actually involves no skill or effort whatsoever. Waste 400 stamina and we'll give you 125 of it back. Give me €400 and I'll pay you back €125!
 
My one today is defeat 100 champions for +50 reserve stamina. Predicting the stamina it'll take to travel to a realm, find the champions and actually kill them, and then travel back... I'm looking at 300+ stamina usage, to earn 50 back. I mean, come on HCS. Almost 9 years of this game and you come out with this. It's just so disappointing, and makes no sense whatsoever.
 
And before anyone starts the whole "you don't have to do the quests" comments, HCS introduced these to try get players to be more active daily and encourage people to play more. All I'm saying, not in a million years would I log into a game to complete a quest that requires more stamina usage than the reward given at the end!

If everyone got back the stamina they used to do the Daily. Why have them do it at all. Why not just give them a Medal for just clicking on the button.

I was under the impression that these were going to be added as something extra.

A lot of you are looking for something to replace or in exchange of what you can normally do. This is not it. The rewards are exactly what they need to be.

If you want to be rewarded for really doing something. Don't do the Daily Quest.

Wait for the Daily Events.

I mean, seriously you all want everything handed to you. What's the point of even playing anymore

#223 Aceshunter

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 13:20

Daily Quest
Defeat 175 Elite creatures
175 / 175
Gain +7 Max Stamina

 

You have successfully collected the reward: Gain +7 Max Stamina



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Posted 04 September 2016 - 13:59

If everyone got back the stamina they used to do the Daily. Why have them do it at all. Why not just give them a Medal for just clicking on the button.

I was under the impression that these were going to be added as something extra.

A lot of you are looking for something to replace or in exchange of what you can normally do. This is not it. The rewards are exactly what they need to be.

If you want to be rewarded for really doing something. Don't do the Daily Quest.

Wait for the Daily Events.

I mean, seriously you all want everything handed to you. What's the point of even playing anymore

 

It hade be more fun to get like gold or exp as reward as its a quest and almsot evry quest in all games i have play always give exp/gold/item/repation dont some enery back as complet (some EP quest was give back energy)



#225 cucullainn

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 14:25

It hade be more fun to get like gold or exp as reward as its a quest and almsot evry quest in all games i have play always give exp/gold/item/repation dont some enery back as complet (some EP quest was give back energy)

some of the quest do give gold. I am not sure how I would feel about them giving out XP. We have enough at EOC always demanding in The forums for more content. As it goes now, I can't wait to see how much reserve stamina I will have by next Easter.

#226 Pythia

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 18:22

The regular quests built into the game are where you will get gold, experience and item drops. (level dependent)

 

The daily quests are to give you something else to do besides watching your stam grow, grass grow or paint dry and the prizes represent that. lol

 

They are for fun, not profit.



#227 EpicPiety

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 18:30

You've made it abundantly clear you don't like the dailies. Fine, don't do them but quit trying to rain on everyone's parade. Some people feel the rewards are worth the effort or they wouldn't be doing them. Some people like me pick and choose but to say 100% of rewards aren't worth it is blatantly untrue. My first daily was to defeat 3 active players in pvp for a reward of 100 current stam. I had 3 targets in epics so I changed gears, used no buffs and hit each with 10 stam. Total of 30 stam used for 100 stam reward = net gain of 70 stam. Totally worth it.

Wow you got lucky. That's not always going to happen. Clearly not much thought went into the rewards when planning the system. Undeniably true.



#228 hisshadow

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 20:52

My daily quest is to kill 5 SE for 50 reserve stamina.  Seems reasonable enough.  So I decided to kill Count Gorbalz since it spawns in only two realms.  I have 4 killed so far, over about five hours.  I have been walking the two realms every ten or twenty minutes and for the past two hours the Count has not re-spawned in any consistent way and no other player has killed one since I started this quest.  What is up with the re-spawn of this SE?  Is there something special about this SE?  My conclusion (and I don't have a beef about the Daily Quests) is that SEs do not spawn in any consistent way, however I have been lead to believe that they are supposed to spawn at regular intervals.



#229 Leos3000

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 21:25

My daily quest is to kill 5 SE for 50 reserve stamina.  Seems reasonable enough.  So I decided to kill Count Gorbalz since it spawns in only two realms.  I have 4 killed so far, over about five hours.  I have been walking the two realms every ten or twenty minutes and for the past two hours the Count has not re-spawned in any consistent way and no other player has killed one since I started this quest.  What is up with the re-spawn of this SE?  Is there something special about this SE?  My conclusion (and I don't have a beef about the Daily Quests) is that SEs do not spawn in any consistent way, however I have been lead to believe that they are supposed to spawn at regular intervals.

Se's do not spawn in any regular interval, this is what makes them different from elites. They spawn anywhere from 15min to 6 hrs apart.



#230 hisshadow

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 21:30

I did not know that. Thanks



#231 hittokiri

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 22:53

Daily Quest

Defeat 4 active players in normal PvP 4 / 4 Gain +150,000 Gold

 

normal I do this for free, now I get 150k gold as bonus :)

 

thanks hoof



#232 hades8840

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 00:59

yesterdays task was travel 300 tiles for 175 stam i did it so at a loss of 125 stam i didnt mind :) but todays is travel 500 tiles for 200k gold come on thats 1 fsp so translates back to 25 stam ..



#233 Pardoux

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 01:43

175 Mounted critters for +9 max stam ? - I'll take that, thanks very much :)


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#234 yghorbeviahn

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 01:44

30 dwarf critters for 30 allegiance tokens...worth the tick



#235 sweetlou

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 02:29

After the game I came to love and enjoy so many, many years ago was for all practical purposes abandoned I just have to laugh at how cheap rewards can be made, it's astonishing! These 200 odd daily quest feel like drive-thru development to appease(or not). Regular quests at least give out some pretty good xp. I don't feel any teeth to this update. What is it, day 4? And I already feel unsatisfied, again.


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#236 TxLxS

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 02:52

Again first some things in game are overpowered now we're mad because these are "under powered" like I posted in another thread would it really make sense to burn 300 Stam and get 500? The whole point is to burn Stam not to give you more maybe the cows could do a tier prize system like complete all 7 daily quest for we week get X Prize compete 6/7 for X and 6/7 for X and the rest nothing maybe that might be an idea top maybe complete 30 days in a row get X amount of reserve Stam

Edited by TxLxS, 05 September 2016 - 02:53.


#237 yotekiller

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 04:11

Yesterday's quest - kill 225 titans for minimal reward. I stink at titan hunting so passed on that one. Today's quest - kill 175 beasts for 125K gold. Convenient since I was leveling anyway so that was easy and the reward paid for more stam while hunting. Win-Win.

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#238 KitiaraLi

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 06:59

Today I have to strip 100 Titan HP to gain me 225 current stam.

 

Sure, that could potentially be a blazing reward of +125 stam (100 used on killings) - maybe a little more if I use conserve... but therein lies the issue. I have to buff up, or pot up. Both things being worth more than the potential +125 stam.

I also have to use stam to get to the map with the titan.. and gold to use the portal. Oh, and in case you were unaware, the titan (or any other critter for that matter) doesn't bother to spawn were I am standing - so again I have to use stam to move around - or 40 stam to cast teleport on myself.

 

As is, the dailies are not driving me towards more game-play - mainly because I know the rewards are not worth my while, some of 'em are not even balanced out to brake even with the stam/gold required to perform the task - and I have to do 30 of these unsatisfying chores to to get the medal.

 

To me, all you have managed to do, is show how little you actually understand your own game, and it hurts me that is has come to this blatant display of ignorance for the game mechanics.

 

Please listen to the earlier statement from someone else, and pause the dailies, till you have had the community help getting 'em right. As it is, they're nothing more than frustrating, and downright driving me away from the game.

 

Hugs and nosepunches, Kit


Edited by KitiaraLi, 05 September 2016 - 07:00.

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#239 Morgwyn

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 07:49

If everyone got back the stamina they used to do the Daily. Why have them do it at all. Why not just give them a Medal for just clicking on the button.

I was under the impression that these were going to be added as something extra.

A lot of you are looking for something to replace or in exchange of what you can normally do. This is not it. The rewards are exactly what they need to be.

If you want to be rewarded for really doing something. Don't do the Daily Quest.

Wait for the Daily Events.

I mean, seriously you all want everything handed to you. What's the point of even playing anymore

 

When this idea was suggested by the community, there was a different idea behind the rewards. Just small things to help you further, and encourage playing. It was not suggested for an extra medal and not for an event system. Those are things HCS added to it.

Simply said, if you need to do a daily that costs 100 stamina, and you get 80 back, then it is not helping you, if you get back 120, then it does help. 

Getting a bit more out of it helps activity/gameplay, while getting less will actually do the opposite!

Many will skip dailies now if it will hamper them achieving their goals, while instead it should be helping them. (at least a tiny bit, no big rewards).

Not everybody is interested in pointless medals.



#240 Pardoux

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 08:54

Personally, I like 'em - I've not seen 'em all yet (obviously), but I've done the 5 I've been presented with.

 

Do I expect to make a net gain from them ? - no, I don't think that's the point of 'em tbh.


Homer : Marge, don't discourage the boy. Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals .. except the weasel.

 

Eddie Izzard : The National Rifle Association say that guns don't kill people, people do. But I think the gun helps, you know ? I think it helps. I think just standing there going "BANG" - that's not going to kill too many people, is it ?

 

I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but it seems that everything I eat lately turns to poo ...



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