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#241 BigGrim

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 10:31

You have successfully collected the reward: Gain +80 Reserve Stamina

 

That's kinda nifty!



#242 hades8840

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 11:33

You have successfully collected the reward: Gain +80 Reserve Stamina

 

That's kinda nifty!

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#243 BigGrim

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 11:46

Suuuuuuuuuuuuure. :P



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Posted 05 September 2016 - 12:45

Again first some things in game are overpowered now we're mad because these are "under powered" like I posted in another thread would it really make sense to burn 300 Stam and get 500? The whole point is to burn Stam not to give you more maybe the cows could do a tier prize system like complete all 7 daily quest for we week get X Prize compete 6/7 for X and 6/7 for X and the rest nothing maybe that might be an idea top maybe complete 30 days in a row get X amount of reserve Stam

 

Have to disagree with this. If the point were to use stam, then I'd hunt (others would PVP, or titan hunt ...). To want to use stam on these dailies, they need to provide either a little boost to help with my favourite game play (hence, for example, give back a little more stamina than they use) or they have to provde a level of satisfaction that compares with my favoured game play. Apart from rewards, the dailies contribute no character development beyond a medal---and I doubt that a medal will motivate many players beyond their first 30 quests. So I think it is essential that the rewards must provide a little boost that makes it worth one's while participating.

 

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As is, the dailies are not driving me towards more game-play - mainly because I know the rewards are not worth my while, some of 'em are not even balanced out to brake even with the stam/gold required to perform the task
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Please listen to the earlier statement from someone else, and pause the dailies, till you have had the community help getting 'em right.

 

I agree fully with the first bit, Kit. But as I said in an earlier post: HCS won't know how to change them if they don't have players trying them out and providing feedback. And that is happening. Many of the gold rewards are now about 10 times larger, the SE kill requirement came right down, the arena became "enter" rather than "win", ...

 

We need to see this as a beta-test period. If you don't like your daily, then give the feedback and don't do it: you're no worse off than if it hadn't been offered, and HCS has more info to make it better. But pausing it would probably just kill off the whole initiative, and would go another step towards convincing HCS that there is no point in them coding new functionality into FallenSword.

 

If we are not willing to work with HCS to game-test something as harmless as daily quests, or even worse, not willing to let other players do that game-testing, then we are really telling HCS that FallenSword has reached its end-of-life.


Edited by rowbeth, 05 September 2016 - 12:47.


#245 BigGrim

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 13:45

If you don't like your daily, then give the feedback and don't do it: you're no worse off than if it hadn't been offered, and HCS has more info to make it better.

 

Exactly right. This is why we ask for constructive feedback.



#246 Pythia

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 15:28

It was my understanding when I was following this in the beginning, that it would be simple.

 

Simple tasks for simple prizes.

 

Something to use some stam but not a lot of stam while waiting for your stam bank to replenish. 

 

Something different to do each day besides sit in the game waiting and unhappy, or come here to the forums and vent about being unhappy and waiting. About being ignored and unhappy about that too. lol

 

I like the dailies and watch each day for the next one.

 

I can only dream about having a bank account like some I've seen out there. lol So dream I shall, and keep working on it.



#247 Pythia

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 15:30

Oh yeah, I'm letting this daily pass and will watch for tomorrows.

 

:)

 

 

edit: I really, really do like the prize on this one though.. smack 4 players for +70 reserve.   That's nice. lol


Edited by Pythia, 05 September 2016 - 15:39.


#248 TxLxS

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 16:31

Oh yeah, I'm letting this daily pass and will watch for tomorrows.

:)


edit: I really, really do like the prize on this one though.. smack 4 players for +70 reserve. That's nice. lol


Wish I had that one :P I got the 500 steps for 40 alliegence tokens which I still will do :)

#249 Pythia

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 16:47

I could really use more of those tokens.  Wow.  lol



#250 leefylee

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 16:57

any chance we could randomize these dailies a wee bit more please... we have had 4 so far and ive had to walk 300 squares on 3 of the days...



#251 smileynirv

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 17:56

ok so ive accomplished a few of the quests but they did not count for the medal. is this something people have been having problems with? i asked guildies and they are not having the same issue. 



#252 RebornJedi

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 18:16

Are you hitting the Collect button in the Daily Quest box after you complete them?

 


#253 smileynirv

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 18:22

Are you hitting the Collect button in the Daily Quest box after you complete them?

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#254 smileynirv

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 18:29

also why should that be required? i did the quest. cows need to fix this. 



#255 Mister Doom

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 19:12

Maybe you're not special enough?


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#256 smileynirv

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 19:26

im not 



#257 Egami

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 22:08

Just changed the arena daily quests so they are now for joining arenas instead of winning them :)

 

Still unsure about that.. stimpy and RJ made opposite opinions quite close to it.

 

I'm leaning more towards the stimpy end which supports this change. Mostly because it's a gold sink, no matter how little. On the upside, someone being serious about it will be happy it goes faster.

 

 

Reduce a Titan's HP by 125
7 / 125

Gain +7 Max Stamina

  1. titan doubler is not working
  • Why?

 

 

I was confused about this myself and actually mentioned it back at my post #178. 

 

I happened to come across, via iggying quite a few people in the Guild Chat to be able to see it, BG made the comment that Titan Doubler "shouldn't work". He gave away, kind of, the idea that Quest Hunter would. 

 

If this is true, then I rectify my 178 post and recommend that any of the kill mob options use Quest Hunter. 

 

Let's see if it pans out on all the kill canine, normal, SE, etc... quests.

 

If anaybody could confirm, would be great. Mine today was PvP oriented.

 

 

Didn't bother to put anything of the post. MsCruz... read through the thread, tons of great comments answering your questions.



#258 rowbeth

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 22:13

He gave away, kind of, the idea that Quest Hunter would. 

 

If this is true, then I rectify my 178 post and recommend that any of the kill mob options use Quest Hunter. 

 

Let's see if it pans out on all the kill canine, normal, SE, etc... quests.

 

If anaybody could confirm, would be great. Mine today was PvP oriented.

 

I experimented on a champion daily today, and quest hunter had absolutely no effect.



#259 Egami

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 23:14

Still highly disappointed with the daily quest rewards. Believe they were tweaked still suck. Only work doing it for the medal. Hardly at that.

 

 

100% of the rewards aren't worth the effort/stamina involved in them. 

 

You've been proven wrong time and time again. You fail to recognize it. Are you wrong? Not necessarily. Simply don't do them. That's a personal call.

 

Several posts after this have given you examples of how these are actually worthwhile on a straight up exchange basis:

 

I've personally noticed PvP daily quests that cost me less stam than they give me as a reward. Today I had a similar one that gave me more than double Reserve stam than what I spent. 

 

I full on get that neither you, nor I, would do all of them. I will still do several.

 

I think FS players, as usual, need to step way back from their personal type of game play. 

 

I would be willing to sacrifice your opinion EP and my own to an extent.

 

That is because I believe the base idea was to get people to log on daily. So far, except for those people saying that the "reward isn't worth it" to which there is actually a huge response to the contrary... I have to applaud it 110%. 

 

I've already skipped two of the events and I'm not one to not constantly use my stam, but I do use it quite often and so I need to decide exactly what it is my priority.

 

Personally, I have to suspect that many players that have little time to dedicate are loving most of the daily quests I've seen. I can imagine tons of players willing to burn 2k stam in 15 minutes to get 10 max stam or reserve stam. At full stam, 2k stam could go to waste pretty quick.

 

Again, don't assume that how you play is how others play.

 

Don't get me wrong, your personal opinion is valid. In my eye, you don't yourself seem very convinced and, reading through responses, I'm seeing tons of varied ideas to the contrary.

 

I burned 244 stam to gain +10 max stam... You don't think that's worth it? I love them so far! Keep'em coming Hoof! 

 

For example.

 

Lets just recognise Dante's feedback that this is one class of quest that one group of the community won't do (...)

 

 

 

So just have a bit of patience and chose the ones you do like.

 

That was on PvP... ideology is one people keep missing. Don't like, don't do it. 

 

Beginning to wonder if these complaints are coming for those that are hyped on the entire thing due to the medal. 

 

Guess they'll have to wait... oh me, oh my... Look at the bright side... 2.7 years to get diamond if you do it every day. Get over it.

 

I hope you're right rowbeth and no i'm not afraid of loosing levels Rebornjedi only i don't see this game as PvP. Anyway looking forward in tomorrow daily :-)

Slight correction: you don't play the PvP aspect of this game. That's fine. Patience. 

 

My view: if you got off the myth that XP meant anything, you'd have tons of Daily Quests opening up to you. 

 

For a little help: So far, I've done two Daily Quests involving PvP. For one, I received 75 stam more than I used. The last one I received 90 reserve stam. 

 

In the first case, I would have happily lost the max 25 levels. I lost zero... nobody bothered to post me. In the second, I could lose 20 levels. 

 

Ho-hum. 

 

Hey, I really appreciate your comments. I am still learning the game and this is the best part of it: the relationship with other players, even when they attack me for nothing.

 

Cheers!

 Very cool, MC. I think these daily quests are definitely a part of helping you on that. Getting to know the UFSG... how to move "regularly". 

 

IMHO... huge wealth of info here to help you and everybody, newbies (like me) and oldies (like *censored to avoid unwanted attention*) alike.

 

While I like the variety of aspects explored in these quests, for the love of god, can we at least break even on our stamina usage? 

 

Of course you can... simply don't do them. You'll break even like a champ! 

 

On a more constructive basis, wait for those where you think the "profit" is worthwhile. 

 

Up to you wether you would find it worth your time/trouble/effort.

Exactly... and that's the point, probably more profitable for some ,oP


Edited by Egami, 05 September 2016 - 23:34.


#260 Egami

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 23:17

Wow you got lucky. That's not always going to happen. Clearly not much thought went into the rewards when planning the system. Undeniably true.

 

Hmm, got lucky.... not always going to happen? Indeed, it shouldn't.

 

I deny it. 

 

Your assumption is that the reward has to be greater than the effort put forth no matter what the situation. 

 

I'd really love to see the list of those that get the medal in the first two months. Heck, diamond is going to take 2.7 years if somebody is really crazy. 

 

I hope the idea isn't too "political" for FS, but I think we are all big enough (assuming we comply with the user agreement) to decide what we think is best for us. We will choose some of the DQs and skip some of the others.

 

That said, I will def be revisiting this post for laughs at the beginning of 2017.

 

yesterdays task was travel 300 tiles for 175 stam i did it so at a loss of 125 stam i didnt mind  :) but todays is travel 500 tiles for 200k gold come on thats 1 fsp so translates back to 25 stam ..

 

Yep, huge differences... Maybe you did right doing it yesterday... but anybody overflowing today as well, would have loved it. Add to that, those going for the medal for Pride. Decisions, decisions... Yeah, I skipped one DQ so far *provides oxygen for those with issues who are left without breath because of this post, gasping at the sheer immensity of my personal decision to actually pass on a DQ... oh me, oh my!*

 

After the game I came to love and enjoy so many, many years ago was for all practical purposes abandoned I just have to laugh at how cheap rewards can be made, it's astonishing! These 200 odd daily quest feel like drive-thru development to appease(or not). Regular quests at least give out some pretty good xp. I don't feel any teeth to this update. What is it, day 4? And I already feel unsatisfied, again.

Day 4 and almost 300 posts in the completely inactive FS Forum... huge of positive feedback? I beg to differ.

 

Many will skip dailies now if it will hamper them achieving their goals, while instead it should be helping them. (at least a tiny bit, no big rewards).

Not everybody is interested in pointless medals.

 

Full on agree Morgwyn... and then tons will... next! 

 

I experimented on a champion daily today, and quest hunter had absolutely no effect.

 

Thanks tons row for the info... this was kind of my question at my #178 post.

 

BG came out in the Global Chat today piping about how Titan Doubler should never work on the Titan hits (I happen to disagree)... His wording made it seem that Quest Hunter would work, like with the Elementals. 

 

According to the buff description of QH, it definitely should. 

 

I believe there are tons of buff issues going on. They should have been fixed before or the skill description needs to be changed.

 

Seriously, row, many thanks for the info. 




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