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#827190 Exploiting XP to boost guild

Posted by gomezkilla on 08 December 2013 - 22:10

I'd like to interject another point here.

 

At ALL levels we have PvPers hitting others, getting on the BB, and losing levels. Eventually, they will all level back up to their VL so they do not lose the ability to wear their favorite PvP setup. With them leveling up, most likely staying in their original leveling map, they gain extra XP that they would normally not get from each creature.

 

Now, why is this acceptable with everyone but the second an EOCer does it at a bigger scale, its an exploitation of the game that needs to be removed?




#826915 Exploiting XP to boost guild

Posted by yotwehc on 08 December 2013 - 06:04

So what you are saying yotwehc as you actually did quote that your bounties weren't touched for hours. So if someone had touched and finished them as don't see any there anymore. Is you got hit with a 100 stam and in return boarded them so they were hit 10 times on board which does more damage. So basically the person had just lost more xp than you did. Now maybe they 100 stammed you 10 times as you were on the board which would be different scenario, but if not justice would have been done.

All I am simply saying is there was coordination between attacker and and attackee (?) on the BB. Isn't that what all of this is about? Your making a big fuss about how the EOC'rs are doing this but no one cares when non-EOC'rs do the same exact thing. MY mention that the bounties weren't touched for hours is the benefit of being in a PVP guild. No one messes with those in the PVP guilds as either they are scared or not worth the mischief that comes with it. I could go on about Justice too but we're already in Siberia as far as the derail is concerned.




#826685 Exploiting XP to boost guild

Posted by RED on 07 December 2013 - 17:40

Exploiting isn`t just confined to us deleveling and releveling as its turned into a game to stop select ones of us from doing this. Yes, you know who you are too. I have been targeted simply because of who we are and I never participated in doing any 10 stam clears until one guild apparantly let some of their members get by

with it after I even informed them "POLITELY" that i had not kept any of their members from deleveling.

 

We buy big POTS and we get big POTS from everywhere now.......If we cannot use them then we will probably QUIT.  If this is a problem, SO BE IT.

 

iF WE GET THE CONTENT, THEN WE DON`T HAVE TO DELEVEL..END OF STORY..THANKS RED

 

 




#826671 Exploiting XP to boost guild

Posted by gomezkilla on 07 December 2013 - 16:44

I see no real harm in this "exploit" for the EOCers to delevel and then relevel back up. If there is a harm, please enlighten me, but so far, there hasn't been anything mentioned in this discussion yet. Guild EXP goes up, EOCers find a way to use their stamina, the BB gets some more attention, PvPing is more active in the higher levels (just guessing there), and the last part is that it isn't against the rules of the game. Its all a win-win situation, its not necessarily a "win" button.

 

Only problem I see that was mentioned in this thread was the threats. Those do need to be taken care of.

 

Think of it in this prospective:

Back in the day, we all played the game as it was created. But then FSHelper script was created! Everyone jumped on that and has used it since! From reading the posts here, I could easily claim that the FSHelper script is exploiting the game. I could also easily say that its a "win" button. But then again, we've had it for years! What did HCS do? They allowed the script to be used. 

 

Just my two cents.

 

Gomez




#826571 Exploiting XP to boost guild

Posted by yotwehc on 07 December 2013 - 08:44

Sorry dude but you need to step off that soapbox, and stop the name calling with the abusive accusatory tone. You're always attacking someone, making it personal, and writing like a cornered animal. I get that you're scared about stuff but this is just a game! Levy's only giving an opinion and I, personally, respect his opinion playing the game a whole lot more than your nonconstructive word attacks. Just use logical arguments. Come out of your rabbit hole. Stop trippin.

I'm the name caller? Look in the mirror. lol. hypocrite was the only word I used and if someone is complaining about the easy button the EOC'rs have then they turn around and say smashing bunnies is not an easy button, well... does not compute... Shoe is fitting...

 

LEt's see... I'm on a soapbox, I'm abusive and accusatory. I'm attacking. I'm making it personal. I'm a cornered animal. I'm non constructive. I'm in a rabbit hole. I'm trippin... yeah... no name calling there. lol...

 

wow...

 

Now to stay on topic, I summarized previously the issues. Am I wrong? Am i missing something? Someone did point out a hole in my top list suggestion and I don't know how to work it but at least it's a starting point and not the.. err... name calling your doing. Either way, if any action is taken, the top guild list is going to be flawed. If the cows were to implement a change to stop the "exploit" all who have done it to this point have their advantage sealed in stone.

 

Here's my list again. PLEASE tell me what is wrong.

Much ado about nothing. My suggestions:
GXP "exploit" - make another top list. One with current calculation and one without.
Gold "exploit" - make champions drop less gold. Who farms champions for gold anyway?
Medal "exploit" - I love the hypocrisy. No "easy" button is acceptable. Except when it involves bunnies of course. Lol 

 

So If your biggest beef is the medal exploit, then yes... it's a problem... but don't push for opening up smashing medal to all hits if your against "easy"




#826525 chest drops suggestion

Posted by gilby90813 on 07 December 2013 - 05:55

if u decide to make a new epic can u make the chest drops be the ingridients for the recipe would boost people wanting chest and it will be hard for merchants or anyone to mass produce. not only that but chest stuff wont be junk anymore but it will have some worth to them just a suggestion




#826516 Exploiting XP to boost guild

Posted by maf22 on 07 December 2013 - 04:57

If it helps keep their interest in the game and keeps people logging in, let them delevel themselves. Most complaints are coming from those who arent at EOC. I know i hate waiting for my stam to get full to hunt just think if there was no where to go....  What would you do??    BUT  I dont agree with them placing bounties on the players that clear with 10 stam hits and asking someone to waste 900 stam and stop before getting the reward.  A player using 900 or 1000 or even 100 stam to clear a player from the board deserves the reward.  If you want someone to use 100 stam hits then pay them to do so, the lower level players have been buying over priced buffs from most of the EOC for a long time as it is, they can return the favor.   Just my view on the situation  and yes the smasher medal is the most bogus medal obtained




#826417 Exploiting XP to boost guild

Posted by Brinmoth on 06 December 2013 - 23:51

Hey, some of those bunnies are pretty vicious.

 

killer-bunny.jpg




#826424 Problem with FSH

Posted by dowuones on 07 December 2013 - 00:06

An easy fix is to disable FSH permanently.

any other useful suggestion?

I fail to understand while in forum in every thread there must alway be a "i suffer dizziness" "jump out of the window and you solve the problem" post.




#826284 Exploiting XP to boost guild

Posted by Leos3000 on 06 December 2013 - 18:24

I see you Hoof. Any concerns regarding gold gains during the delevel relevel cycle? Or are you satisfied with gold flow within the game?


Just to address this issue for the people who do not have experience being deleveled. When you actual level is below a creatures level you gain less gold per level below it. So if your a few hundred levels below the creature you gain very little gold per kill (which is another reason people use sac 500) so if your next argument is an excess of gold coming in try again...


#826244 Exploiting XP to boost guild

Posted by UrcK on 06 December 2013 - 16:52

When regaining large amounts of levels 99% of folks use SAC500 so no substantial gold is coming into the game in reality.




#826209 Exploiting XP to boost guild

Posted by Hoofmaster on 06 December 2013 - 15:55

The problem with making any changes to this now is that it's basically always worked like this. If we changed it now it would be very hard for guilds to get the guild xp to get in the Top 250 list and also I think a lot of players at EOC enjoy contributing more to their guild.

 

The guild xp doesn't have a huge impact on the game, other than the top list so what is the real issue here? Is it the de-leveling via the bounty board that is the main concern?




#825880 Exploiting XP to boost guild

Posted by fusionj on 05 December 2013 - 22:25

No problemw with the principle of this practice, except 2 details.

 

1. Don't make threats to those that choose to clear you with 10s. There are plenty of people out there that still enjoy bounty hunting(even if you're ruining that part of the game for them, by sitting naked on the board, offering them no challenge).

 

2. The ruination (?) of the Smasher medal - which plenty view as just another shiny medla to stick in their profile, when it started, it was earned with a degree of risk. A level 100 could clear an EOC player repeatedly and earn that medal right now. I don't know how to fix this.

 

What this boils down to is that there's a whole lot of "me" players in this game - on both sides of this argument. I 100% agree that EOC players should have the right to delevel to relevel(giving their guild XP, and something for them to burn their stam on). That right, however, should not come at the enjoyment of other players - be it through threats for 10 stam clears, or the destruction of 2 medals that used to mean something to what little PVP world this game still has.

 

I sincerely hope the cows find a way to remedy the issue because just getting rid of the ability isn't a viable option.




#825610 Exploiting XP to boost guild

Posted by cyrus7 on 05 December 2013 - 16:49

Adding on to the teleport them out of that realm idea...

They get dropped into a lava pit, and the longer they sit there, the longer they burn. 

That is, their gear slowly rots away (loses durability).

:ph34r:




#825259 New Content. Levels 1851 - 1875.

Posted by BigGrim on 04 December 2013 - 18:12

Oops! No! Only 25 levels!




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