For example #1 the numbers regarding how much pvpxp will affect your ability to steal gold have not been finalised, however the affect will be sufficient that a bounty and the following pvpxp loss will have to weighed by anyone contemplating a gold hit.
For example #2 That is sociopathic behaviour.
Players that do not care about anything and only play the game to inflict pain on others cannot be properly accounted for in any system. Inflicting xp loss upon them has proved in the current system to be an insufficient 'punishment' as is made evident by the amount of tickets. (That has resulted in the decision of HCS to abandon xp loss altogether)
They should be warned and then removed from the game if they choose to persist in their completely anti-social behaviour. (IMO)
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