Bujon

insaner6, on 15 Sept 2021 - 17:27, said:

potion of "DIVINE KNOWLEDGE" should be as the name suggest something divine.
not just a "good balance" and something medium.

 

That isn't a reason, change the name then :-) 

Your xp reasoning is no less single minded than a PvP player wanting buff orientation in their favour, surely?

insaner6, on 15 Sept 2021 - 17:13, said:

 

i suggest that the following pot should
not introduced in the game if it stays as is..
there are already higher pots gained, there is no need for underpowered potions to be introduced
just to say "we introduced something"..


either return it to the fist status, as it was fistly introduced, or remove completely..
 

Potion of Divine Knowledge. Loyalty:  750

 

Adept Learner Level : 600 Duration : 120m

Librarian Level : 600 Duration : 120m

 

Reason?  600's offer the lower levels a good balance and levelling opportunity cheaply,   anything in the 900+ would disproportionately aid xp and gxp for those guilds with many members with huge stam banks during twice yearly dxp hunt.

Happy with all suggestions except Distil250 (gone) and BM500:-  (have my doubts on AS1000 doubler 3000/5000 and the relatively high AL/LIB/CONSERVE, but happy to run with it).

PointyHair, on 15 Sept 2021 - 10:23, said:

 
I take exception to this, it shows a clear bias in my opinion.

This is a tally of published opinions up to that point:


Bearing in mind that this is the internet, malcontents and luddites are quick to spew
their venom. My hypothesis was that the naysayers were just posting more frequently,
let's have a look at the top 10:


It looks to me like the people against the proposed changes are making much more noise
than the happy people. A result that should shock absolutely no one. It happens every time
and good changes get watered down to placate vested interests.

 

I am happy to just have  tally of 1 against my name thanks, despite my 'noise' :-)  The simple fact is there are a few suggestions in the proposals that have sparked a discussion as to the pros cons, but surely that is a good thing?? 

 

I have been pretty consistent , I am FOR tweaking the loyalty and some of the pots seem fine and dandy (even doubler 5000!! if people really want it). I am just AGAINST a select few of them.  Given the OP suggested a bulk package of changes isn't that also a reasonable standpoint.  BM500 (BAD) DISTIL250 (BAD),  AL/LIB/CON/DOUBLER I don't really care in grand scheme of things, just not sure of the Motiviation on that aspect.

shindrak, on 15 Sept 2021 - 09:40, said:

 

Bujon, on 15 Sept 2021 - 09:24, said:

 

shindrak, on 15 Sept 2021 - 09:11, said:

Bro I agree with you on things and disagree on some... I know Doubler buff is the most desired for high stamina players but at same time it doesn't hurt other players who can't afford it to work for monthly medal or top 100 medal  like high level AL , LIB and conserve ...

 

I just see no point to it.  Level 2000 is already ample. Anymore is just lazy.

It is player's choice you can't decide if doubler 2000 is enough since it will not affect other player's game .

I agree its a choice and I will use 5000 and be lazy :-)  doesn't mean its right

 

your argument about leveling on elite doesn't make sense because the elite spawn every 15 min  and leveling on it will take lots of time (maybe make doubler 5000 have lower duration to change your concern? and thats another reason why BM500 is bad) 

 

Not true, every elite I have hunted respawns within no real time if I refresh my screen after killing, I have actually had occasions where the elite as been caught in AM respawn and I haven't moved from that spot for 5 levels (okay that could of been a glitch in the game). 

 

I concede the benefits of hunting on elites with AS1150 and Doubler 5750 maybe outweighed by the time it takes to hunt them, but players will figure out best methods for themselves I guess.

it is 2 spawns every 15 mins  you can test like you did on AS1000 and you were wrong  

Don't need to test this one    also would be happy with AS1150 so long as the last level Elite in the game is nowhere near the last content level.

 

 

Farillion Corallian Overlord (Elite) level 4775 I have just defeated three times in a row all at less than a 30 second intervals :-)

 

My other side of view on doubler 5000 it could help low level players with low stamina banks to level faster if they hunt a few low level elites  that spawn rate more than higher level ones  .(of course they need the right setup and buffs  to kill them easily )

which is great thing for the game !

 

Not following this one.  If you have low level stam then your hunt is going to be over mighty quick with 5750 doubler. Isn't hunting about hunting, not just maximum levelling with minimal effort?  That is like paying to go on a sea fishing expedition and as soon as you board the boat you just drop a mine in the water and BOOOOOM, job done. :-)

It is a player's choice ,  you can keep using doubler 1000 and enjoy leveling.

False argument, a low level player using doubler 5750?? seriously. Let's just be honest and say it is aimed at those with huge stam banks being able to spend less time hunting/grinding, especially so when pushing on past EOC.

 

 

 

I can completely run with the massive doublers, as I will use them, I am just saying it is lazy and the game 'IMO' would be better served with alternative skills/pots from the tokens.  It is probably the same single minded view that puts brew master 500 in the same frame, I have just been trying to prod to see what the motivation behind the chosen proposals is.